That's why I stressed the 20 seconds. It may not be great that there is an 'expectation of being filmed', but it usually not individualized (the camera shows a crowd) and when it is, it shows people for just a second or so.
Even though this is probably not illegal, I don't think this is cool. But then again, as a European, I'm more of a stickler for privacy and all that than is common in America.
Focusing on funny or interesting looking people for a long time is pretty common at American baseball games at least. Any time I've gone I found myself hoping they don't put me on the big screen. But some people like it.
But if you walk into a space where it's explicitly a known possibility, whose fault is it when it inevitably happens? Stop trying to erode personal responsibility. Or are we going to continue down the path of infantilization where we insist people, especially women, don't actually have agency?
But if you walk into a space where it's explicitly a known possibility, whose fault is it when it inevitably happens?
'Possible' is not the same as 'inevitable'. Hell, how often does it happen that the camera zooms in on two specific people for 20 seconds? It's a vanishingly small possibility, if that, so yeah, it's the fault of the people who did this.
Stop trying to erode personal responsibility
Wow, that is a new definition of 'personal responsibility', that people have the right to film and broadcast you to the world, and that you can't even say anything about it.
Or are we going to continue down the path of infantilization where we insist people, especially women, don't actually have agency?
I'll go down the path of saying that this, and your 'Kiss Cams' for that matter, are remarkably stupid and should not even be allowed.
What the fuck are you talking about? That happens all the time. What do you think shit like Kiss Cams were?
But then again, as a European, I'm more of a stickler for privacy and all that than is common in America.
What the fuck are you talking about? Europe openly has mass public surveillance and mass public compliance. Maybe you as an individual is more of a stickler for privacy, but not as a European.
What the fuck are you talking about? That happens all the time. What do you think shit like Kiss Cams were?
Something no one in Europe has ever heard of, mercifully.
Europe openly has mass public surveillance and mass public compliance
Multiple things can be true at the same time. People here love to be slaves but also not to have their personal information or image broadcast to the whole world.
People here love to be slaves but also not to have their personal information or image broadcast to the whole world.
So it's cognitive dissonance then? You're fine with privacy being infringed upon at every point, so long as your privacy isn't infringed upon in a very specific way.
That's why I stressed the 20 seconds. It may not be great that there is an 'expectation of being filmed', but it usually not individualized (the camera shows a crowd) and when it is, it shows people for just a second or so.
Even though this is probably not illegal, I don't think this is cool. But then again, as a European, I'm more of a stickler for privacy and all that than is common in America.
Focusing on funny or interesting looking people for a long time is pretty common at American baseball games at least. Any time I've gone I found myself hoping they don't put me on the big screen. But some people like it.
I disagree that CCTV everywhere Europe expects more privacy than an average American.
They don't care about privacy as long as the government is the one doing the spying.
It's worse in some places (e.g. the UK) than others, but good point.
Still, the CCTV isn't being broadcast everywhere. It's just for our safety, just like illegal spying and all the other pleasant things the rulers do.
But if you walk into a space where it's explicitly a known possibility, whose fault is it when it inevitably happens? Stop trying to erode personal responsibility. Or are we going to continue down the path of infantilization where we insist people, especially women, don't actually have agency?
'Possible' is not the same as 'inevitable'. Hell, how often does it happen that the camera zooms in on two specific people for 20 seconds? It's a vanishingly small possibility, if that, so yeah, it's the fault of the people who did this.
Wow, that is a new definition of 'personal responsibility', that people have the right to film and broadcast you to the world, and that you can't even say anything about it.
I'll go down the path of saying that this, and your 'Kiss Cams' for that matter, are remarkably stupid and should not even be allowed.
What the fuck are you talking about? That happens all the time. What do you think shit like Kiss Cams were?
What the fuck are you talking about? Europe openly has mass public surveillance and mass public compliance. Maybe you as an individual is more of a stickler for privacy, but not as a European.
Something no one in Europe has ever heard of, mercifully.
Multiple things can be true at the same time. People here love to be slaves but also not to have their personal information or image broadcast to the whole world.
So it's cognitive dissonance then? You're fine with privacy being infringed upon at every point, so long as your privacy isn't infringed upon in a very specific way.
I didn't say 'I', but maybe you meant the plural.
Many people have the foolish belief that the government is illegally spying on us for our own good, and all that.