There is a solution. It just won't be implemented because we'd rather destroy human civilization than allow a single woman to be inconvenienced. Controlling women's Chad chasing like all functioning civilizations in history did would make the birth rate problem disappear. It's not the utopia that a lot of men imagine (women resented the fuck out of their betabux husbands and dead bedroomed them in old times too) but at least it was functional, which is more than can be said about the current clown show.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but like it or not MGTOW style attitude towards women is kind of doing this already. As men we all know who these types of women are chasing and thanks to social media we know all these born again Christian tradthot larpers and women who pretend they've changed actually haven't because they're still behaving the way they are and chasing men that make them wet and searching around for a gullible simp to 'settle down' with.
The good news is that these women are being weeded out through a process of natural selection. The bad news is it's too effective and there's more of these types of disloyal women than anyone thought which is a big part of why the birth and marriage rates are dropping so hard. Before it would be a case of you'd have these awful skanks suckering men in without the men knowing how bad they are. We also know this because there are incredibly depressing incidents of older men finding out their spouse had been cheating on them sometime decades ago, had a child with another man and then hid the fact from the man she suckered into being in a relationship.
If you want a real solution it's going to have to be at a very minimum rebalancing the whole family court system ( Which both the right and the left aren't willing to do ) so that men can have a fighting chance in any divorce settlement. Then on top of that DNA testing of babies should be mandatory for the sake of legal liability.
Again though, that's real reform that neither side will commit to, because on the right especially they pretend to be friends of men but they are very much on side with the TERF attitude towards men and constantly treat men as if they're the bad guys. Then they wonder why men want nothing to do with women and won't side with them generally.
The bad news is it's too effective and there's more of these types of disloyal women than anyone thought which is a big part of why the birth and marriage rates are dropping so hard.
For every man with resolve there are 100 men who will pay for pictures of a woman slapping peanut butter on her ass.
Part of me thinks birth rates are low because the internet has exposed that we're due for a natural culling, nevermind the fact that hoes be wildin'
I think it's way too easy to blame the internet like people blame video games, it's like how I constantly point out, if anyone needs to go outside it's simps. Guys always fap to stuff, I've honestly been surprised seeing what pops up on sites and I'm thinking, really? Even as a 13 year old I wouldn't fap to that a lot of these girls that pop up online as well are nasty as fuck too because they've all got tattoos, piercings and some form of plastic surgery on top of that as well as an overdose of makeup. Granted that's very much a modern women look these days but it's particularly prevalent online.
It's easy to blame the internet because it is to blame. Social media is worse than hard drugs for women. Online dating has shut off all but the top percentages from access to women. Meanwhile men don't do anything about it.
the right especially they pretend to be friends of men but they are very much on side with the TERF attitude towards men and constantly treat men as if they're the bad guys. Then they wonder why men want nothing to do with women and won't side with them generally.
That is because all civilizations despise weak men. The fact that the institutions cultivate weak men, and incentivize weak men, changes nothing.
This is basically the problem with Men's Liberation. You are never going to get the equality, and you are never going to get the sympathy. Men, literally, just have to become stronger and more stoic. Society acted like an abusive wife and berated men into becoming snake-bitten, thus proving the shit test true. Men just have to push right past it, and build the anti-parallel civilization that needs to be built from scratch.
Fascism and Monarchism can still, very much, promote weak men, and often do. This is because they are highly authoritarian, and authoritarianism promotes emotional incontinence as well as submission to the ruling orthodoxy or intuitions.
Nah. 100% wrong. They're aren't good women and bad women and there is no real filtering effect. There are good environments and bad environments. Women are whores in bad environments and they settle down and have children in good environments.
The fix is simple: no university, no career, no political office. no voting. why are they doing all of those things anyway instead of having children? Bring their options back in line with sane reality and build a healthy, positive environment around large families with both mother and father.
I agree with the general direction here but there's definitely a difference between bad women and less-bad women, and implying that they're merely a product of their environment just sounds like another way to spare them from accountability for their actions. If you're looking for a wife, you should be a little more selective than just "she wants to be a stay-at-home mom and have kids so she's perfect".
women are not having children because they have other options. they like those options: enslave men to the state and be a whore. get a job. go to university. obviously you have to remove their right to vote or hold office first and foremost, to get any of this done.
to fix the birth rate catastrophe, remove their options. No university. No career. No welfare. Submit to a man and begin having children.
when we're somewhere back to 4-5 children per family we can re-evaluate. maybe.
In an agrarian society children were assets, because they provided a workforce for the family once they got old enough. As the makeup of our society changed in the 20th century they shifted from an asset to a liability, with the only "return on investment" being that they will potentially care for their parents in old age, which is not guaranteed because our society doesn't place a heavy stigma on stashing your parents in an old folks home to die.
Faced with that reality, the only people having children are those that really want them for the sake of having a child in and of itself, and poor scumbags who don't practice birth control (see Idiocracy).
There is a solution. It just won't be implemented because we'd rather destroy human civilization than allow a single woman to be inconvenienced. Controlling women's Chad chasing like all functioning civilizations in history did would make the birth rate problem disappear. It's not the utopia that a lot of men imagine (women resented the fuck out of their betabux husbands and dead bedroomed them in old times too) but at least it was functional, which is more than can be said about the current clown show.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but like it or not MGTOW style attitude towards women is kind of doing this already. As men we all know who these types of women are chasing and thanks to social media we know all these born again Christian tradthot larpers and women who pretend they've changed actually haven't because they're still behaving the way they are and chasing men that make them wet and searching around for a gullible simp to 'settle down' with.
The good news is that these women are being weeded out through a process of natural selection. The bad news is it's too effective and there's more of these types of disloyal women than anyone thought which is a big part of why the birth and marriage rates are dropping so hard. Before it would be a case of you'd have these awful skanks suckering men in without the men knowing how bad they are. We also know this because there are incredibly depressing incidents of older men finding out their spouse had been cheating on them sometime decades ago, had a child with another man and then hid the fact from the man she suckered into being in a relationship.
If you want a real solution it's going to have to be at a very minimum rebalancing the whole family court system ( Which both the right and the left aren't willing to do ) so that men can have a fighting chance in any divorce settlement. Then on top of that DNA testing of babies should be mandatory for the sake of legal liability.
Again though, that's real reform that neither side will commit to, because on the right especially they pretend to be friends of men but they are very much on side with the TERF attitude towards men and constantly treat men as if they're the bad guys. Then they wonder why men want nothing to do with women and won't side with them generally.
For every man with resolve there are 100 men who will pay for pictures of a woman slapping peanut butter on her ass.
Part of me thinks birth rates are low because the internet has exposed that we're due for a natural culling, nevermind the fact that hoes be wildin'
I think it's way too easy to blame the internet like people blame video games, it's like how I constantly point out, if anyone needs to go outside it's simps. Guys always fap to stuff, I've honestly been surprised seeing what pops up on sites and I'm thinking, really? Even as a 13 year old I wouldn't fap to that a lot of these girls that pop up online as well are nasty as fuck too because they've all got tattoos, piercings and some form of plastic surgery on top of that as well as an overdose of makeup. Granted that's very much a modern women look these days but it's particularly prevalent online.
It's easy to blame the internet because it is to blame. Social media is worse than hard drugs for women. Online dating has shut off all but the top percentages from access to women. Meanwhile men don't do anything about it.
Pajeet, is that you?
What's your plan?
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That is because all civilizations despise weak men. The fact that the institutions cultivate weak men, and incentivize weak men, changes nothing.
This is basically the problem with Men's Liberation. You are never going to get the equality, and you are never going to get the sympathy. Men, literally, just have to become stronger and more stoic. Society acted like an abusive wife and berated men into becoming snake-bitten, thus proving the shit test true. Men just have to push right past it, and build the anti-parallel civilization that needs to be built from scratch.
And for no reason at all actual fascist regimes and monarchies started popping up everywhere in the west.
Fascism and Monarchism can still, very much, promote weak men, and often do. This is because they are highly authoritarian, and authoritarianism promotes emotional incontinence as well as submission to the ruling orthodoxy or intuitions.
Nah. 100% wrong. They're aren't good women and bad women and there is no real filtering effect. There are good environments and bad environments. Women are whores in bad environments and they settle down and have children in good environments.
The fix is simple: no university, no career, no political office. no voting. why are they doing all of those things anyway instead of having children? Bring their options back in line with sane reality and build a healthy, positive environment around large families with both mother and father.
I agree with the general direction here but there's definitely a difference between bad women and less-bad women, and implying that they're merely a product of their environment just sounds like another way to spare them from accountability for their actions. If you're looking for a wife, you should be a little more selective than just "she wants to be a stay-at-home mom and have kids so she's perfect".
OK, correct, but be explicit.
women are not having children because they have other options. they like those options: enslave men to the state and be a whore. get a job. go to university. obviously you have to remove their right to vote or hold office first and foremost, to get any of this done.
to fix the birth rate catastrophe, remove their options. No university. No career. No welfare. Submit to a man and begin having children.
when we're somewhere back to 4-5 children per family we can re-evaluate. maybe.
It's more than just that. The cost to raise a child from birth through college is now astronomical. This article says the per-year cost is 41% more in 2024 than it was eight years ago: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-kids-cost-raising-child-inflation-childcare-tax-exemptions-2024-1
In an agrarian society children were assets, because they provided a workforce for the family once they got old enough. As the makeup of our society changed in the 20th century they shifted from an asset to a liability, with the only "return on investment" being that they will potentially care for their parents in old age, which is not guaranteed because our society doesn't place a heavy stigma on stashing your parents in an old folks home to die.
Faced with that reality, the only people having children are those that really want them for the sake of having a child in and of itself, and poor scumbags who don't practice birth control (see Idiocracy).
This sounds like a bullshit number they made up to demoralize people from having kids.
We talking total cost or per year, because if that's total then that sounds really fucking affordable.
This and just making the economy and future prospects not shit. Rent culture and debt dont inspire people to make families either.