I tend to avoid talking politics with my parents (mostly because they watch CNN and MSNBC all of the time), but in rare instances where war comes up, I ask them, "what if they reinstate the draft?" Their immediate response is, "that will never happen" and that is the end of the conversation. I sometimes think they say that because they don't want to even entertain the idea of the possible outcomes of a draft for their children, though perhaps they genuinely believe that the draft would never be reinstated because of potentially how unpopular it would be. I have seen similar strong opinions on this board about the impossibility of a draft in the United States, and I have to wonder why you are all so certain about it?
Time and again we have seen decisions by the government being made that defy logic, especially politically, only for the average citizen to look on in complete apathy at best, and sheer joy at worst. Years of the Syrian Civil War being plastered everywhere with criticisms of US inaction have made the left more hungry for war. The Ukraine War has seen leftist individuals (even the trannies who you would expect to whine and moan about doing anything) actually travel to Ukraine and participate in fighting. The propaganda is powerful, and the apathy towards resisting is even stronger.
I think you would have to be foolish to not even entertain the idea of the Establishment reinstating the draft. It doesn't matter if the logistics would be impossible as that has rarely stopped the government before. As far as I see it, the Silent Generation and the Boomers are not satisfied with merely passing away quietly, they want to go out in a blaze of glory, consequences for their children, and the human race as a whole, be damned.
Because Vietnam was the last time they did it and it gutted their officer class in friendly fire, unless you were E4 and lower you weren't guaranteed your safety.
Combine that with an armed and disenfranchised population and put it this way, when even the cucked and blackpilled UK population says "FUCK OFF!" to the draft, you think you can make Americans sign up?
This time it won't be the officers it will be the politicians.
One can only...
I mean.
Damn.
That would be terrible.
Boy.
I hope that doesn't happen.
its also not going to happen :
anyone smart enough to pull it off and get away with it, is also smart enough to keep himself and his family away from all this globohomo crap. so why would he bother.
anyone smart enough to pull it off but not get away with it, is also smart enough to understand that he'll be dead and they'll then come after his family. so he won't dare.
anyone dumb enough to try anyway is also dumb enough to believe globohomo lies, so he won't do anything either.
which explains why the only attempts at shooting politicians come from the people supporting the globohomo side.
how many officers died in Vietnam compared to enlisted? and was that % higher or lower than other wars?
Enough that it got it's own term 'fragging' for the more popular use of frag grenades to do it.
Compare that to the Gulf War or even the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and you can see the difference in drafting in the reluctant to fight.
But when you say "enough" was it more or less than other wars? I don't doubt that it existed, but death by US issued fragmentation grenades would presumably leave obvious injuries and would be trivial to track and tally.
Lots of naive people in this thread.
The public was over 90% against joining ww1 and ww2. We said all the same shit. Still happened.
All it takes is one attack on the US.
Yes that's true but there's a key part you're missing of your examples:
We live in a HUGE patriotism disparity
You ask the MAGA crowd and they are patriotic only to their LOCAL communities and fewer to the state and none to the country. The left? They're running around with the flags of OTHER countries.
You don't have the belief in a country needed to do a draft, you try without that and everything collapses.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots
Did not stop the Civil War and the north still won.
When they still had law and order everywhere else.
Things have devolved so much now that drafting would be bad FOR the establishment as IF the normies fell for it you know who won't?
The 'urban youths and Basketball Americans' who enjoyed their 'summer of love', less normies working being productive, they aren't going to suddenly obey the law and fill the gap so it results in a STEEP acceleration into collapse and those 'migrants' won't fill the gap either so you remove the productive side of you population for a draft with NOTHING to fill it.