the issue here is that beauty is conflated with pornography in what is clearly an orchestrated effort to make it so, which results in accelerated cultural and psychological destruction as people who ought be against pornography end up actually perpetuating it.
game is made with obvious softcore-pornographic appeal. i'm not talking Ashley from Resident Evil, she's just cute - i'm talking Bayonetta, NieR Automata, Stellar Blade, "million polygon ass" as a selling point
game's pornographic elements are bashed by people who do truly hate beauty and would rather we get Abby from TLOU2, in a way that makes it seem like they're bashing on beauty rather than pornography
people like us here rush to the defence of the game's pornographic elements, thinking we are defending beauty
our point is turned from "we must defend beauty" to "we must defend softcore pornography" intrinsically by what we defend
we lose all credibility and the people who like Abby get their way
i've been going around these Stellar Blade and similar threads counterpointing this forum's extreme reaction against the censorship in it not because i'm some utter lunatic who likes how they turn every decent woman into some fat brownoid creature, but because i genuinely think the way our people are psychologically manipulated into fighting is going to make it happen more often.
we should not be out here declaring free speech dead because they gave a chick some pants or lengthened a swimsuit, we should rightfully focus on and attack their genuine weakpoints, which are that they take perfectly normal characters and turn them into extremely ugly creatures for no reason. we are in no shortage of events like that. Stellar Blade is an enemy distraction.
It shouldn’t matter. Your level of obsession of what other people want in their game is genuinely retarded. If you want a half naked girl with a fat ass running around killing giant monsters, that’s cool, I don’t give a shit. It was a nice reprieve to see someone not following the typical DEI bullshit of making the main character ugly for “modern audiences”. My day is not gonna be made or broken by a computer generated image of a half naked woman. The only people taking your stance are the freaks that hate anything they can’t ever become.
Me personally? I am most angered that they showed off all this stuff and made the “uncensored” business pitch to all potential buyers just to pull the rug and take back a lot of what they showed previously. Thats false advertising and is an extremely scumbag move by everyone involved.
Baldur's gate 3 allows you to fuck a bear and was celebrated by the kind of people who hate Stellar Blade.
They don't care what it makes them look like as long as they get their way.
"No bad tactics, just bad targets" You can't be better than them to a group who will do and say anything to get what they want.
They're gaining more ground because we concede it constantly. You're arguing in favour of this censorship here from Sony, because fighting against it would, in your opinion, make you look like a "sex-crazed maniac". Constantly conceding every little battle about censorship means that one day, it becomes too far gone, and you've lost all rights. It should be vocally and financially opposed at every turn, even in trite cases like this. It's the only way to maintain free speech and individual rights.
to play mr. lawman for a moment: this isn't censorship, just a business making a poor business decision.
to play myself again: "first they came for the titties, then they came for the political dissidents" is missing a few steps. i'm personally a fan of the slippery slope theorem, but only when connections can actually be drawn between point A and point Z. none can be drawn here.
you could argue that this, er, vaguely gets people used to having things away from them, but nobody who is censored or truly worries about censorship (like we gamers, who dearly miss our Hard R :( ) will take you seriously when you show up and go "i know what it's like to be oppressed, they covered up my waifu's cleavage in a day 1 patch."
if this Stellar Blade crap had been one post with a few guys going "dang, unfortunate" in the comments it'd be whatever, but there are downright manhours being spent getting outraged and passionately positively ANGRY at some cleavage being taken away, citing human rights to freedom and all that is good and right upon Mother Earth and whatever the hell and it's like, dude, could any of you spend this much effort on anything that makes sense?
or am i simply speaking to teenagers who haven't grown up yet, and who will move on from their sex-related obsessions with time? there are so many better battles to be fought.
i believe you can get a few normies to tilt their head at that censorship and start asking questions (not many, but a few), assuming the person revealing the censorship is tactful enough so that they won't trigger the anti-racism programming present in the common populace.
there is, however, no tactful way to whine that your waifu is less exposed.
I agree with you but don't you think we're going too far
no, i think you're going the wrong direction
if you fight your enemies they win!
what part of rallying around softcore pornography makes you think you're fighting leftists, who championed pornography and its proliferation?
Someone ban this faggot.
ridiculous. you meet the slightest resistance in a pro-gooning echo chamber and immediately call for cleansing. furthermore, you're blind and politically suicidal, casting away allies for trifles as idiotic as not wanting porno in their games like you and your rotted brain do.
the issue here is that beauty is conflated with pornography in what is clearly an orchestrated effort to make it so, which results in accelerated cultural and psychological destruction as people who ought be against pornography end up actually perpetuating it.
i've been going around these Stellar Blade and similar threads counterpointing this forum's extreme reaction against the censorship in it not because i'm some utter lunatic who likes how they turn every decent woman into some fat brownoid creature, but because i genuinely think the way our people are psychologically manipulated into fighting is going to make it happen more often.
we should not be out here declaring free speech dead because they gave a chick some pants or lengthened a swimsuit, we should rightfully focus on and attack their genuine weakpoints, which are that they take perfectly normal characters and turn them into extremely ugly creatures for no reason. we are in no shortage of events like that. Stellar Blade is an enemy distraction.
It shouldn’t matter. Your level of obsession of what other people want in their game is genuinely retarded. If you want a half naked girl with a fat ass running around killing giant monsters, that’s cool, I don’t give a shit. It was a nice reprieve to see someone not following the typical DEI bullshit of making the main character ugly for “modern audiences”. My day is not gonna be made or broken by a computer generated image of a half naked woman. The only people taking your stance are the freaks that hate anything they can’t ever become.
Me personally? I am most angered that they showed off all this stuff and made the “uncensored” business pitch to all potential buyers just to pull the rug and take back a lot of what they showed previously. Thats false advertising and is an extremely scumbag move by everyone involved.
if this is the best philosophy you have to offer on the matter, is it any wonder our enemies are gaining more ground than we are?
Baldur's gate 3 allows you to fuck a bear and was celebrated by the kind of people who hate Stellar Blade.
They don't care what it makes them look like as long as they get their way. "No bad tactics, just bad targets" You can't be better than them to a group who will do and say anything to get what they want.
what does anything you just said have to do with anything i said?
nowhere here am i going "demonrats are the real racists! we must win the hearts and minds of the people" or whatever the hell you think i'm doing...
They're gaining more ground because we concede it constantly. You're arguing in favour of this censorship here from Sony, because fighting against it would, in your opinion, make you look like a "sex-crazed maniac". Constantly conceding every little battle about censorship means that one day, it becomes too far gone, and you've lost all rights. It should be vocally and financially opposed at every turn, even in trite cases like this. It's the only way to maintain free speech and individual rights.
to play mr. lawman for a moment: this isn't censorship, just a business making a poor business decision.
to play myself again: "first they came for the titties, then they came for the political dissidents" is missing a few steps. i'm personally a fan of the slippery slope theorem, but only when connections can actually be drawn between point A and point Z. none can be drawn here.
you could argue that this, er, vaguely gets people used to having things away from them, but nobody who is censored or truly worries about censorship (like we gamers, who dearly miss our Hard R :( ) will take you seriously when you show up and go "i know what it's like to be oppressed, they covered up my waifu's cleavage in a day 1 patch."
if this Stellar Blade crap had been one post with a few guys going "dang, unfortunate" in the comments it'd be whatever, but there are downright manhours being spent getting outraged and passionately positively ANGRY at some cleavage being taken away, citing human rights to freedom and all that is good and right upon Mother Earth and whatever the hell and it's like, dude, could any of you spend this much effort on anything that makes sense?
or am i simply speaking to teenagers who haven't grown up yet, and who will move on from their sex-related obsessions with time? there are so many better battles to be fought.
Why didn't I see you in this thread?
i believe you can get a few normies to tilt their head at that censorship and start asking questions (not many, but a few), assuming the person revealing the censorship is tactful enough so that they won't trigger the anti-racism programming present in the common populace.
there is, however, no tactful way to whine that your waifu is less exposed.
"I agree with you but don't you think we're going too far" and "if you fight your enemies they win!" is classic entryist/shill behavior.
Someone ban this faggot.
no, i think you're going the wrong direction
what part of rallying around softcore pornography makes you think you're fighting leftists, who championed pornography and its proliferation?
ridiculous. you meet the slightest resistance in a pro-gooning echo chamber and immediately call for cleansing. furthermore, you're blind and politically suicidal, casting away allies for trifles as idiotic as not wanting porno in their games like you and your rotted brain do.