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The bees owner dislikes asking question. Also weird alliance with dwire (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– PraiseBeToScience 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

How is it that you "critical thinkers" never once wondered why /r/conspiracy is still on Reddit, and Google/Youtube still has conspiracy theory content all over it?

Funny how everything is a fiendish plot, except anything you believe. Then it's definitely organic, even though you can't even tell us who created most of the conspiracy videos you've watched.

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– misogynegro 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One of the most tiresome strawmen of "conspiracy theories" is that it requires everyone involved to be a perfect Machiavellian mastermind with absolute control over everything.

As if powerful institutions never lie, cover up atrocities from the public, assassinate inconvenient people, etc. Nevermind that only a rank amateur thinks that consent manufacturing is done by meticulously controlling every single interaction at the most granular level, which even North Korea can't do.

The fact that you poison the well against your notion of a "conspiracy theory" by reasoning a priori that conspiracies only work when they're perfectly airtight, even as you yourself admit that if indisputable proof of 9/11 being an inside job ever came to light there isn't jack shit that ordinary people could do about it, shows that you're every bit as close-minded and driven by an ax to grind as the people you hate.

You don't need to perfectly micromanage the flow of information when most people (at least until recently) don't bother to look up easily verifiable information that contradictions MSM narratives. How many retards believe that it's a totally normal everyday occurrence for cops to shoot unarmed, nonviolent black people, because they never bothered to read some fucking stats?

It's easy enough to fool people by poisoning the well against dissenters, since people such as yourself have already decided a priori that conspiracies are impossible according to a ridiculous standard of evidence. And if you had grown up in a country like Russia, you'd be calling anyone who raises an eyebrow against Russian dissidents mysteriously falling out of windows a conspiracy theorist, because the term is just a way to make anyone wanting to feel like a respectable, educated person so terrified of being associated with tinfoil crazies that they shut up and operate within the Overton Window.

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– PraiseBeToScience 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

As if powerful institutions never lie, cover up atrocities from the public, assassinate inconvenient people, etc.

You are making my point for me here to the extent that I'm losing sight of what your point is. Because, how do we know everything you just said actually happened? Because they fucked it up. Someone spilled the beans. Someone left the wrong document somewhere. Something went wrong. A cursory investigation opened up a can of worms. Actual evidence was left behind.

What do conspiracy theories (not conspiracy facts) all have in common? Nothing has ever gone wrong. Nobody has ever leaked. Not a single stray piece of material was left out of place. Even conspiracies involving THOUSANDS of people who 100% would've known they were involved with something after the plot (like lmao how many people would've been told to strap Loony Toons dynamite bundles to the WTC on 9/10 but then went 'oh that had nothing to do with me' on 9/11?) all magically just stay completely mum for decades and decades.

The number of conspiracy theories that have become conspiracy fact is almost zero, despite what they like to claim. Many "conspiracy theories" they take credit for were never actual theories at the time (Iraq WMDs), and a bunch of them (like Gulf of Tonkin) was broken by CONGRESS.

since people such as yourself have already decided a priori that conspiracies are impossible according to a ridiculous standard of evidence

I literally just judge conspiracy theories by the exact same standard of proof any conspiracy theorist uses to "doubt" the official narrative. How the hell is that in any way wrong?

If conspiracy theorists don't need any actual reason to think any given mass shooting was a 'false flag' (need I remind you, go to ANY thread on a breaking news mass shooting on this entire website and the first comments are literally all claiming 'fed'), or even something like that crazy nutjob who drove his truck into DC and threw money everywhere (was also declared a fed plot with literally no reason to think so), why should I need a "reason" to doubt a conspiracy?

But I don't even sink to the disgusting depths of sewage CTs love to sink to on that point. I at least ascribe the same rational 'doubts' they do.

But when it comes to the official story versus conspiracy theory, guess what, there's only one group that isn't willing to engage at all. And no, it's not "believers". We know it's not "believers" because probably thousands of websites exist where people who believe the official narrative spend enormous amounts of time debunking CT claims.

What do CTs do?

They literally just shout 'faggot kill yourself'.

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– misogynegro 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You are making my point for me here to the extent that I'm losing sight of what your point is. Because, how do we know everything you just said actually happened? Because they fucked it up. Someone spilled the beans. Someone left the wrong document somewhere. Something went wrong. A cursory investigation opened up a can of worms. Actual evidence was left behind.

What do conspiracy theories (not conspiracy facts) all have in common? Nothing has ever gone wrong. Nobody has ever leaked. Not a single stray piece of material was left out of place. Even conspiracies involving THOUSANDS of people who 100% would've known they were involved with something after the plot (like lmao how many people would've been told to strap Loony Toons dynamite bundles to the WTC on 9/10 but then went 'oh that had nothing to do with me' on 9/11?) all magically just stay completely mum for decades and decades.

You're once again attacking a strawman, Idk any "conspiracy theorist" who believes that any conspiracy is perfectly airtight. All you're doing is, again, poisoning the well against alternatives to mainstream accounts, by setting an impossible damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't question-begging standard of evidence.

If evidence leaks, it wasn't a "real conspiracy," and if it doesn't leak, you have no proof.

Keeping thousands of people from talking isn't the monumental task you think it is. Organized crime syndicates wouldn't exist if it was impossible to keep thousands of people from talking, and these syndicates are experts at leaving behind no concrete proof of their guilt even as circumstantial evidence makes it obvious what happened. There's that whole thing about how sometimes you know something you can't prove, like what happened to Jimmy Hoffa.

And it's even worse when you're talking about a government with control over the media. Any 9/11 whistleblower would be dismissed as crazy or a liar by people like you, any documents they produced would be dismissed as fabricated, everything they said would be nitpicked, and if they mysteriously wound up suicided it would be yet another "conspiracy theory" to say that probably wasn't a suicide.

The number of conspiracy theories that have become conspiracy fact is almost zero, despite what they like to claim. Many "conspiracy theories" they take credit for were never actual theories at the time (Iraq WMDs), and a bunch of them (like Gulf of Tonkin) was broken by CONGRESS.

There was a time when the Italian mafia's very existence was dismissed as an urban legend rooted in anti-Italian prejudice, mob-connected union leaders even managed to get the FBI to stop using the word "mafia" for a moment because it was allegedly derogatory towards Italians. Back then "urban legend" had a very similar connotation to "conspiracy theory."

People in Western countries didn't by and large believe the reports of Nazi and Soviet atrocities until way, way later, or at least thought that such reports were wildly exaggerated. The existence of Unit 731 was officially denied in Japan for decades because the US classified the evidence proving it happened, as part of a deal to get Japanese scientists to help us research bioweapons. Only when some Japanese journalists managed to get that info declassified did it come to light, and most of the people involved in Unit 731 were dead by then.

Nevermind Epstein and his island being dismissed as a conspiracy theory until recently.

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– Justalurker69420 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Your gay shit might work on reddit, but it clearly isn't working here, fag. Strawman and shill all you want because no one is buying your kvetching anymore.

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– PraiseBeToScience 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah you're such a little rebel, yet you believe the same garbage every other one of your peers does, without question.

Then you mock believing the 'official narrative', even though every single one of your gay conspiracies is literally an official narrative in its own right, and you're too fucking dumb to realize you all believe the same shit.

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