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Met with derisive laughter from the ghost of Gary Gygax: DnD’s new Vecna adventure is about the importance of consent (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by dagthegnome 2 years ago by dagthegnome +36 / -0
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– cccpneveragain 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Biggest thing that has always confused me about these games is why there is a constant need for some central authority to regularly distribute a rulebook. Did the rules of the previous game just not work? I think it's just marketing and wanting to sell stuff. The only "table games" I play would be poker and chess to a lesser degree. Yeah, there's variants to poker especially, but I don't have to have "Official Poker rules, 28th edition, 2024 revision" where they just up and decide that queens defeat kings now.

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– Indipendepede 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

why there is a constant need for some central authority to regularly distribute a rulebook

I don't play myself, but a couple reasons off the top of my head:

  1. Consistency- imagine if you had to go over the entire rule set every time you join a new group.
  2. Laziness- most people don't want to spend hours, days, years developing speadsheets for their own OC.

Did the rules of the previous game just not work?

  1. Balancing- it's practically impossible to fine tune a game perfectly before public feedback. Even then, you'll never please everyone, but that's what home-brewed rules are for.
  2. Patches- I doubt they exhausted all creativity in existence before the 1st release, so new races, spells, actions or whatever you can imagine might get added in later versions.

I've heard the rule books come with their own scenarios/lore etc that could make it easier for new DM's or players to get used to. Some people might even buy them for the art.

What surprises me isn't how popular it is, but rather how few competitors there are. I've heard of Pathfinder, and that's about it.

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– cccpneveragain 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, that is curious. Haven’t I seen before that they love to file lawsuits? I’m not sure how they would win, tons of those type fantasy things are just lifted from Tolkien and the like anyway. They can still litigate you to death though.

I think in the end it’s all far too autistic for me. Maybe if I had a group of friends that played only for fun, sure. Going to “public” where to going to mostly people who breathe DnD air, eat DnD cereal, and wipe themselves with DnD toilet paper, well that doesn’t sound too enticing. Interesting to learn about though.

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– Indipendepede 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Haven’t I seen before that they love to file lawsuits

You might be on to something.

I participated in a session or 2 and been on the periphery of a few, but it can literally take all day just to roll characters- especially if you're new. I think people tend to bring their own to save on time, but it can take weeks or months of regular, lengthy meetups to get through a single campaign. Even assuming life doesn't get in the way, I don't have the patience for it.

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– fauxgnaws 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They're not games, more like peer pressure simulator. It's your turn, but DM says you tripped on a rock and miss your turn or something dumb and arbitrary like that, but he can only do that if the other players go along with it.

New ruleset is like Congress passing some new "workers rights" bill - now things are fair, peon's rights, my gripes are important - but really it's the same bullshit as before, you just feel like this time it'll be different.

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– cccpneveragain 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That made me more interested into what you're on about. So I went and looked and came across several places with stories about dungeon masters. Uh, yeah, the insanity. My brain doesn't work in the way that would be required to play that game or participation event or whatever you want to call it.

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– DemolitionsPanda 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And all umpires are just on power trips. The sport (any of them) would be better without them, AM I RITE?!

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– fauxgnaws 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Sports are better without umpires, judges, referees, but with objective measures instead. The less subjective the better. That's why they brought in instant replays.

If a ruleset could turn "my character died because I didn't buy the DM lunch" into Baldur's Gate II then that would be great, but they don't.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's kind of like a live service game, isn't it? I guess you can keep playing older versions though so there is at least that. I never got into this stuff either because of what you are talking about here. It also seems to be full of trannies and shitlibs now anyway.

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– EggShenBusTours 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Chock full o nuts. I watched a video reviewing "dm horror stories" A quarter of them were about "racist" players acting in ways that make the story obvious bullshit to anyone who isn't woke

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