I know we’ve all said our piece about Last Jedi but this is a good summary.
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I've never been a Star Wars fan (I think I've seen one movie from each trilogy), but I do remember the prequel bitch-fest. Now people look back at them like "hey maybe these weren't so bad" because they didn't truly understand how bad Star Wars could be without George Lucas, and now they do.
Kinda like Star Trek fans bitching about Rick Berman: turns out the only thing worse than Star Trek with Rick Berman is Star Trek without him.
Yeah the Disney movies were so bad it hypnotized people into thinking the Prequels were actually good. They weren't. They sucked. They ruined Anakin Skywalker from being a noble Jedi into a cringey whiny little creep, they practically character assassinated the Jedi into being a bunch of buffoons, had one of the worst romances this side of Twilight, and the only reason people showed up to the third one was because they believed they'd get to see a good volcano light saber fight with Obi-Wan. Which ended up being okay but the over-reliance on CGI highlighted how it was just two actors dancing at each other and not a real fight.
Now so much time has passed there are idiots who unironically think the Prequels are good. Mostly because they've also had multiple shows and other media to damage control and retroactively make it suck less, but it doesn't change the Prequels were once known as the greatest cinematic disappointment around.
The prequels were bad movies made by a guy who intended to make good movies. The Force Awakens was a mediocre movie made by somebody who intended to make a lot of money. The Last Jedi was a very bad movie made by somebody who explicitly wanted to ruin the franchise and hated the fans. Nothing made after that matters.
I've started to see the opposite too, where people (eg.) try to claim The Matrix (the original; not the sequels) wasn't good presumably because the guys who made it think they're women now and tried to back-port troon themes into it via a fourth movie released 15 years after the last one.
No The Matrix was good, did a whole bunch of shit we'd never seen before in a movie, and culture was referring to themes in that movie for 2 decades after it came out. There was a reason for that, and don't try to pretend that wasn't the case just because those themes are all owned by the right now and Hollywood is very uncomfortable with that fact.
I literally fell asleep during Attack of the Clones. All the obvious green screen backdrops kind of pulled me out of it. The only part I liked was bare midriff Padme.
Still a better movie than TLJ.
Hard disagree. The prequels are far from perfect but there’s definitely a lot there to enjoy
I haven’t watched Trek since the two JJ Movies. Who is Berman?
The guy in charge of literally the entire 80s-90s era. TNG + films, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise.
Wow. I’ve seen all the pre Nu trek. Can’t believe I never noticed.
Rick Berman was Executive Producer of all things Trek starting with TNG and ending with Enterprise.
I love the pre Nu trek shows. Can’t believe I never remembered that name
Fans blamed him for everything they didn't like about the shows he was EP for. Maybe that was justified (I honestly don't have an opinion), but also maybe him being just a tiny less "progressive" than everyone else kept Trek from going too far off the rails.
In a similar way that perhaps Harvey Weinstein only putting women he was attracted to on the casting couch ensured Hollywood starlets were pulled from a pool of attractive women instead of...whatever they are now.
CriticalDrinker brought this up in his recent review of Ghostbuster Frozen Empire. He said it was a bland, uninspired movie and its only saving grace is that it wasn't as bad as the REALLY shitty Fembusters movie from a while back, and that seems to be how Hollywood is running these days.... Make an absolute dogshot movie, wait a couple of years, then put out something that makes you go ''Well at least it wasn't as bad as that other literal pile of dogshit they threw in my mouth.''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgn7-Zt_g5Y
This image hasn't age one bit.