Decades of a super unhealthy lifestyle, but he stopped a bit ago.
I used to know an alcoholic, who drank for decades. Stopped, like 5 years later died of liver cancer.
Harmful lifestyle choices often don't just leave your body when you stop.
Or think of athletes. If they wreck their joints for a couple decades, that doesn't stop if they just stop being pro. Some damage lasts.
I mean the way op phrases it, it sounds like during the actual decades of unhealthy lifestyle, he had no problems. When he's not actually drawing manga, he just started having problems while his last manga was 2013 and he drew only 11 chapters of that for a weekly series so...3 mths of work. That's 10 years ago.
Looking through his list of works, the last time he drew anything more than 20 chapters was dragonball and that was the 90s. Ever since then he's basically only occasionally done some short 10 chapterish series every now and then
it sounds like during the actual decades of unhealthy lifestyle, he had no problems
And as is the case with many long term problems caused by earlier life experiences those problems don't have to be present during the times of the causes.
Shift workers who go from day shift to night shift over and over have been shown to have shorter life spans than those who don't go through the same repeating flips in body rhythms, but apart from likely feeling more tired than others at the time there isn't going to be be the same level of problems that comes later on when various body parts of the body start failing due to years of suffering conditions due to work times. Endocrinology, neurology, skeletal, and others all take hits throughout this and eventually reach a breaking point but can be so long after what caused it that it doesn't matter if it's been stopped, as posted elsewhere ITT, "the damage is done".
I dont think mangaka suffer from increased chances of brain tumor though.
Emilia Clarke had 2 aneurysms during the shooting of Game of Thrones, the first during the very first season, the second 2 years later. The facts she had 2 and survived both is already remarkable but the fact she was only 24/25 at the time of the first points out that sometimes these things happen to anyone regardless of age or any previous history.
Then you start factoring in comorbity from other parts of someone's life.
When the term "the silent killer" gets used it really should refer to aneurysms more as they can go undetected for far too long then pop and someone literally drops dead. Whether the rupture is induced externally from a head injury or simply happens after long enough will vary as the underlying condition can be that "dormant" nothing seems wrong for years despite the Damocles sword hanging no further than the lining of a blood vessel.
Take that, the highly overworked nature of manga writers/artists that is extremely evident in the more popular series and just how often new issues get put on break because the creator literally needs to stop before being hospitalised [again], and the equally destructive working environment of Japan where men are not only expected to work like this but then go and socialise and drink themselves to stupor all for the sake, pun intended, of conforming to what is meant to be the cultural working design of Japan, and you end up with a lot of Japanese men quite literally working themselves to death.
Even when this sort of behaviour only lasts a relatively short period of time in someone's life the damage caused by that time spent under these intense conditions and the various consumptions can start a countdown that may end up ticking for years or decades but still ends up stopping far sooner than it should have.
Yep, this is what happened to me in November. Quit smoking 5 years ago, but wound up in the hospital with a "weak heart" and pneumonia for a bonus. It was serious enough that the local hospital knocked me out on Saturday, threw me on a helicopter (see: STARS) just after midnight Monday morning, and didn't wake up until Tuesday morning around 10.
At least they said my lungs were really clear (after the pneumonia was taken care of, anyway.)
Never needed a doctor much WHILE I was a smoker. At least the heart pills they prescribed do actually make me feel better than I did.
Yes, I'm fine, thank you. I just have to remember to not overdo things any more. I've got a follow-up appointment next week, I'm hoping for a little more guidance.
At least I'm not banned from salt; high blood pressure isn't an issue. But the pills they gave me lower something that was already kind of low, but they also got rid of the chronic tachycardia which feels a lot better.
Foothills gave great care, and the food was even pretty good (my only complaint is the lack of salt, they don't give it to patients.) I got the whole gamut of tests; I can't say I was a fan of getting a heart biopsy. And my arms are so damn skinny, they had to do the angiogram through my hip.
I'm just glad I didn't have a heart attack while walking the dog.
Oh, and I kind of know how Fry and Lister felt. It's weird to be knocked out in one place, and wake up several days later in another. It's not like sleep, where you're kind of aware that time has passed - this was "last thing I heard was the word "fentanyl", and the next thing I know it's three days and three hundred km later ..."
Decades of a super unhealthy lifestyle, but he stopped a bit ago.
I used to know an alcoholic, who drank for decades. Stopped, like 5 years later died of liver cancer.
Harmful lifestyle choices often don't just leave your body when you stop.
Or think of athletes. If they wreck their joints for a couple decades, that doesn't stop if they just stop being pro. Some damage lasts.
Same reason Eddie Guerrero died. He had quit drinking and drugs at the time but the damage was already done.
I mean the way op phrases it, it sounds like during the actual decades of unhealthy lifestyle, he had no problems. When he's not actually drawing manga, he just started having problems while his last manga was 2013 and he drew only 11 chapters of that for a weekly series so...3 mths of work. That's 10 years ago.
Looking through his list of works, the last time he drew anything more than 20 chapters was dragonball and that was the 90s. Ever since then he's basically only occasionally done some short 10 chapterish series every now and then
Then again, he was an old guy. Not like giga ancient, but even healthy old people who never smoked, drank or did drugs will deteriorate with age.
And as is the case with many long term problems caused by earlier life experiences those problems don't have to be present during the times of the causes.
Shift workers who go from day shift to night shift over and over have been shown to have shorter life spans than those who don't go through the same repeating flips in body rhythms, but apart from likely feeling more tired than others at the time there isn't going to be be the same level of problems that comes later on when various body parts of the body start failing due to years of suffering conditions due to work times. Endocrinology, neurology, skeletal, and others all take hits throughout this and eventually reach a breaking point but can be so long after what caused it that it doesn't matter if it's been stopped, as posted elsewhere ITT, "the damage is done".
I dont think mangaka suffer from increased chances of brain tumor though.
His last long manga was 30 years ago. That was nearly half his life ago. I doubt his brain bleed took that long to occur if that was the cause
Emilia Clarke had 2 aneurysms during the shooting of Game of Thrones, the first during the very first season, the second 2 years later. The facts she had 2 and survived both is already remarkable but the fact she was only 24/25 at the time of the first points out that sometimes these things happen to anyone regardless of age or any previous history.
Then you start factoring in comorbity from other parts of someone's life.
When the term "the silent killer" gets used it really should refer to aneurysms more as they can go undetected for far too long then pop and someone literally drops dead. Whether the rupture is induced externally from a head injury or simply happens after long enough will vary as the underlying condition can be that "dormant" nothing seems wrong for years despite the Damocles sword hanging no further than the lining of a blood vessel.
Take that, the highly overworked nature of manga writers/artists that is extremely evident in the more popular series and just how often new issues get put on break because the creator literally needs to stop before being hospitalised [again], and the equally destructive working environment of Japan where men are not only expected to work like this but then go and socialise and drink themselves to stupor all for the sake, pun intended, of conforming to what is meant to be the cultural working design of Japan, and you end up with a lot of Japanese men quite literally working themselves to death.
Even when this sort of behaviour only lasts a relatively short period of time in someone's life the damage caused by that time spent under these intense conditions and the various consumptions can start a countdown that may end up ticking for years or decades but still ends up stopping far sooner than it should have.
Yep, this is what happened to me in November. Quit smoking 5 years ago, but wound up in the hospital with a "weak heart" and pneumonia for a bonus. It was serious enough that the local hospital knocked me out on Saturday, threw me on a helicopter (see: STARS) just after midnight Monday morning, and didn't wake up until Tuesday morning around 10.
At least they said my lungs were really clear (after the pneumonia was taken care of, anyway.)
Never needed a doctor much WHILE I was a smoker. At least the heart pills they prescribed do actually make me feel better than I did.
Fuck, man. You okay now?
Yes, I'm fine, thank you. I just have to remember to not overdo things any more. I've got a follow-up appointment next week, I'm hoping for a little more guidance.
At least I'm not banned from salt; high blood pressure isn't an issue. But the pills they gave me lower something that was already kind of low, but they also got rid of the chronic tachycardia which feels a lot better.
Foothills gave great care, and the food was even pretty good (my only complaint is the lack of salt, they don't give it to patients.) I got the whole gamut of tests; I can't say I was a fan of getting a heart biopsy. And my arms are so damn skinny, they had to do the angiogram through my hip.
I'm just glad I didn't have a heart attack while walking the dog.
Oh, and I kind of know how Fry and Lister felt. It's weird to be knocked out in one place, and wake up several days later in another. It's not like sleep, where you're kind of aware that time has passed - this was "last thing I heard was the word "fentanyl", and the next thing I know it's three days and three hundred km later ..."