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State of the Manosphere/ Red Pill (sigmaframe.wordpress.com)
posted 2 years ago by KingLion7 2 years ago by KingLion7 +17 / -0
Problems with The Red Pill — Exposition
What has happened to The Red Pill over the last 2 years?
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– Grant_us_eyes 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

If he really is that blackpilled, I can almost forgive and understand him for not going into the 'why' portion of 'Men should do this' part of his videos.

He's made small oblique hints to it, but he's yet to go down that particular rabbit hole. And if that's the case...

Edit: Morbid curiosity drove me to go take a look at Hoe_math's twitter. Holy shit, you weren't kidding. You can tell he's a bit more brutal in his off-the-cuff stuff.

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– Benevolentdictator 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I've watched a few of his livestreams.

He makes oblique references to the fact that COVID shenanigans destroyed his professional career and he has literally retreated to a cabin in the woods.

He also seems to believe in his own personal male concept of hitting the wall despite the fact I've heard him mention several times that he thinks the female version is a myth.

He also loses a little bit of cred in that he shits on dating apps & advises anyone he coaches to go out into the real world to find a woman. But then he's currently dating one of his presumably online professional coaching clients. Which is somewhat hypocritical and probably unethical.

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– Grant_us_eyes 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Eh. I'm not expecting perfection from him. I feel he falls down a fair bit in that he'll make a good point but do so in a way that's so off-putting to people that they'll push back against it for what I feel are very good reasons.

(For an example of what I'm talking about: his recent 'dress well' video.)

It'll be interesting to see what he means by 'the female wall is a myth'. I don't believe that in the slightest, but I'll atleast hear him out.

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– Benevolentdictator 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I can't remember his exact reasoning re: the female wall myth, but I believe it's as simple as the fact that his lived experience is that high SMV females still do well finding partners into their 30s and 40s.

I find this somewhat ironic, as his personal narrative wrt his own situation goes something like "I'm in my late 30s, never had success in my career, slept with hundreds of women, was shredded but am less so now, am supremely confident and am a master at understanding female psychology. And yet civilization is collapsing and despite my newfound YT wealth, it's too late for me bros."

I don't even get the sense that he's worried that he's getting old to start a family.

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