Russia doesn’t want to take over Europe. They’d rather sell Europe natural gas and other resources. Why do you imagine they want to take over Europe so badly? There was nothing “manifest destiny” in Putin’s interview with Carlson. Literally the opposite. He stated that Russia has all the resources it needs. Like, look at a map; Europe is a blip compared to Russia, and they have no resources. As we speak the german economy and industrial base is withering on the vine without Russian natural gas, whereas Russia’s economy is performing better than any western country even with sanctions in place.
The hysteria that people like you have when it comes to Putin is frankly childish. The world is not a movie, he’s not a comic book villain. Calm the hell down and look at the situation objectively.
Why should anyone outside of Ukraine give a fuck what happens there? I do care that money I'm forced to pay is being used for this shit, but that's as far as my concerns go.
I actually have a better question for you. How is this any different from the war in Iraq? Same bullshit money laundering, different fucking day.
If you don't care that's fine, as long as you're telling the truth. The "don't care" position would be something like "yes Putin is attempting to conquer Ukraine for his dreams of empire, that's not my problem". This is a totally defensible position.
It's also okay to be pro-putin. What's not ok is to say you "don't care" then do a hundred mental backflips and type an essay every time someone says something true and unflattering about your favorite dictator. Just be honest in your position.
How is this any different from the war in Iraq?
The difference is this time we're on the right side. Russia is waging a war of aggression for their own political, territorial and resource gain. They're playing the role we did in Iraq. They even had their own "weapons of mass destruction" bullshit story, this time about bio labs - and it seemed plausible too, didn't it?
With all the covid shit in Wuhan. Just like the WMD story in Iraq seemed plausible because Saddam kept fucking with the UN inspectors. Russia has sophisticated intelligence agencies, just like we do (or did at least), who can plant stories and come up with plausible lies to suit the wants of the regime.
lol you are actually delusional. I haven’t been cornered and you haven’t demonstrated that I hold any false beliefs at all. Can you try to engage with reality instead of whatever script you have in your head?
Cool, what happens when putin topples the kiev government again? That's what this subthread is about right?
You wrote that whole paragraph about how putin is but a peaceful gas merchant, because of how much you don't care. He doesn't want to install a puppet government in kiev, he just wants to topple the current regime and then ______
So in your scenario where putin topples the government in kiev, what's his next step?
Russia doesn’t want to take over Europe. They’d rather sell Europe natural gas and other resources. Why do you imagine they want to take over Europe so badly? There was nothing “manifest destiny” in Putin’s interview with Carlson. Literally the opposite. He stated that Russia has all the resources it needs. Like, look at a map; Europe is a blip compared to Russia, and they have no resources. As we speak the german economy and industrial base is withering on the vine without Russian natural gas, whereas Russia’s economy is performing better than any western country even with sanctions in place.
The hysteria that people like you have when it comes to Putin is frankly childish. The world is not a movie, he’s not a comic book villain. Calm the hell down and look at the situation objectively.
Answer the question. Putin topples the government in kiev. If he's not going to install a puppet, what does he do?
Better question: why should I give a single solitary fuck what happens in motherfucking Ukraine either goddamn way?
You seemed to care a lot, right before you got cornered by your obviously false beliefs.
Why should anyone outside of Ukraine give a fuck what happens there? I do care that money I'm forced to pay is being used for this shit, but that's as far as my concerns go.
I actually have a better question for you. How is this any different from the war in Iraq? Same bullshit money laundering, different fucking day.
If you don't care that's fine, as long as you're telling the truth. The "don't care" position would be something like "yes Putin is attempting to conquer Ukraine for his dreams of empire, that's not my problem". This is a totally defensible position.
It's also okay to be pro-putin. What's not ok is to say you "don't care" then do a hundred mental backflips and type an essay every time someone says something true and unflattering about your favorite dictator. Just be honest in your position.
The difference is this time we're on the right side. Russia is waging a war of aggression for their own political, territorial and resource gain. They're playing the role we did in Iraq. They even had their own "weapons of mass destruction" bullshit story, this time about bio labs - and it seemed plausible too, didn't it? With all the covid shit in Wuhan. Just like the WMD story in Iraq seemed plausible because Saddam kept fucking with the UN inspectors. Russia has sophisticated intelligence agencies, just like we do (or did at least), who can plant stories and come up with plausible lies to suit the wants of the regime.
lol you are actually delusional. I haven’t been cornered and you haven’t demonstrated that I hold any false beliefs at all. Can you try to engage with reality instead of whatever script you have in your head?
Cool, what happens when putin topples the kiev government again? That's what this subthread is about right?
You wrote that whole paragraph about how putin is but a peaceful gas merchant, because of how much you don't care. He doesn't want to install a puppet government in kiev, he just wants to topple the current regime and then ______