> the establishment lie that Putin's goal was to take over all of Ukraine
Are you clowns still pulling the "kiev was a feint" card? Have you never seen any russian state media? Did you fall asleep during putin's hour long manifest destiny lecture to tucker carlson?
I don't see how you could possibly think this unless you had just woken up from a coma.
The establishment lie was that Russia invaded Ukraine to take over and install a puppet state, and if successful they'd possibly move on to other NATO countries. I have no doubt Russia would love to topple the government in Kiev and end the war that way if they could, but the main goal was always securing the eastern regions and Crimea.
And yes I did fall asleep during Putin's lecture but I'm not sure what that has to do with this.
Russia doesn’t want to take over Europe. They’d rather sell Europe natural gas and other resources. Why do you imagine they want to take over Europe so badly? There was nothing “manifest destiny” in Putin’s interview with Carlson. Literally the opposite. He stated that Russia has all the resources it needs. Like, look at a map; Europe is a blip compared to Russia, and they have no resources. As we speak the german economy and industrial base is withering on the vine without Russian natural gas, whereas Russia’s economy is performing better than any western country even with sanctions in place.
The hysteria that people like you have when it comes to Putin is frankly childish. The world is not a movie, he’s not a comic book villain. Calm the hell down and look at the situation objectively.
> the establishment lie that Putin's goal was to take over all of Ukraine
Are you clowns still pulling the "kiev was a feint" card? Have you never seen any russian state media? Did you fall asleep during putin's hour long manifest destiny lecture to tucker carlson?
I don't see how you could possibly think this unless you had just woken up from a coma.
The establishment lie was that Russia invaded Ukraine to take over and install a puppet state, and if successful they'd possibly move on to other NATO countries. I have no doubt Russia would love to topple the government in Kiev and end the war that way if they could, but the main goal was always securing the eastern regions and Crimea.
And yes I did fall asleep during Putin's lecture but I'm not sure what that has to do with this.
So in your scenario where putin topples the government in kiev, what's his next step?
Russia doesn’t want to take over Europe. They’d rather sell Europe natural gas and other resources. Why do you imagine they want to take over Europe so badly? There was nothing “manifest destiny” in Putin’s interview with Carlson. Literally the opposite. He stated that Russia has all the resources it needs. Like, look at a map; Europe is a blip compared to Russia, and they have no resources. As we speak the german economy and industrial base is withering on the vine without Russian natural gas, whereas Russia’s economy is performing better than any western country even with sanctions in place.
The hysteria that people like you have when it comes to Putin is frankly childish. The world is not a movie, he’s not a comic book villain. Calm the hell down and look at the situation objectively.
Answer the question. Putin topples the government in kiev. If he's not going to install a puppet, what does he do?
Better question: why should I give a single solitary fuck what happens in motherfucking Ukraine either goddamn way?
You seemed to care a lot, right before you got cornered by your obviously false beliefs.