Bro, dude was 60 years old. I think it was just old person cheapness.
Dude can no longer retire or work in his field because of a grand total of... $3.50? Wow, what a monster.
It should've just been a reimbursement, a fine, or hell, a fucking warning if even that. Calling the police, hunting him down, and making a scandal out of this is frankly, embarrassing. Yeah, he shouldn't have done it, but this is so minor an infraction that hunting him down makes it seem like a joke.
It probably cost the state more money in transportation costs (read: gas money) to reach this guy than he actually fucking stole over the course of months. One wonders why the guy wasn't just confronted by the employee and asked to pay what he actually owed.
If you told me you called the police on a 60 year old man for something like this, I'd wonder if you were a sociopath with nothing better to do. Good luck to him making a comeback at this stage, I'm sure a lot of schools will want a disgraced guy close to death.
I mean hell, this is the kind of scandal and disgrace you could see a suicide over, have some fucking perspective dude.
This is the correct take. Ruining someone’s career over exploiting for an extra $1 of coffee over the course of a period of time is no different than commie fucks hear trying to ruin your career because you didn’t supply money for a kid to get transitioned.
If you told me you called the police on a 60 year old man for something like this, I'd wonder if you were a sociopath with nothing better to do. Good luck to him making a comeback at this stage, I'm sure a lot of schools will want a disgraced guy close to death.
No, I'm pretty much in agreement with you. I was more speaking in general about how to treat people in authority who do this. They went totally overboard in his particular case (especially taking away his pension), he did admit the theft and apologize, and I bet even most Japanese people would agree the reaction seems extreme. He hasn't "disgraced" himself. I'm sure he'll be able to get another job after some time passes. Maybe not as an administrator, if only because of the ageism there.
have some fucking perspective dude.
Chill out, I'm not the one who called the police. I only asked what people thought the appropriate punishment should be. Getting away with "just say sorry and pay back the $3.50" is too easy unless we're talking about a child.
I would not be surprised if like someone else here suggested the school only used this excuse to cover up some other hidden scandal... or maybe someone else on campus just hated him and wanted to take his job.
Ah yes, so we should cut his hands off for this grave offense too while we're at it, eh Muhammad?
While we're at it, we should go after people who eat grapes from the grocery store, and people who jaywalk too should be on the chopping block next, they've had it too good for too long. Execute them all I say.
By the way citizen, I noticed you were a few cents off on your tax filing... you should have been more careful. I sure hope you enjoyed your life until now.
This is exactly what has led to the moral decline of the West. You think: well, it's just 50 cents, so I guess stealing isn't all that bad. When this sets in motion the slippery slope, the undefeated champion, up to the point that thefts of up to $950 are tolerated in California.
Churchill once asked a woman if she'd have sex with him for a million pounds. She said yes. Then he asked if she'd do it for 10 pounds. She said, why, do you think I'm a whore? And he said: Ma'am, we've already established what you are, now we're haggling over the price. And this is what you're doing. You have basically stated that it's OK to steal what you regard as small sums, and now you're haggling with California over how much it's OK to steal.
Stealing grapes: yes, people shouldn't be putting their disgusting paws on food to begin with. That's worse than stealing.
Jaywalking isn't a crime anywhere outside of America (that I'm aware of), so that's just uncommon silliness.
Is what happened to this guy draconian? Well, yeah. Was it undeserved? No. Having a functioning society has a price, and I'd rather that people like this pay the price than to have my city turned into Chicago.
No, its not that stealing isn't all that bad, its that there are clear degrees of crime and wrongdoing, you fucking dense buffoon.
The punishment should fit the fucking crime, but then again I'm talking with someone who has no idea that even his history of being a reddit liberal in the past could be used to end him in the future if the pendulum swings back hard enough.
If you think human's life is worth $3.50, I'd ask you what separates you from those niggers who kill each other over $20 in the ghettos. The difference is that you could probably moralize yourself into believing you're somehow better for it because you have a rule you can point to for your bloodlust and sadism, as if you've never done anything wrong in your own life, ever.
Absolutely graceless and completely lacking in self-awareness.
Context, cost and scale are important for determining degrees of punishment.
You're correct that ALL crimes need punishment to deter even simple infractions, but the context of the crime and the scale of the punishment need to be doled out in respect to the cost it has on society when it comes to stability and maintaining cultural consistency.
In short, the context was over something minor (i.e., coffee), the cost of which was also minor (less than $5) while the scale of punishment was more than what was taken, and a potentially greater detriment to the man's life than what crime he had committed.
Bro, dude was 60 years old. I think it was just old person cheapness.
Dude can no longer retire or work in his field because of a grand total of... $3.50? Wow, what a monster.
It should've just been a reimbursement, a fine, or hell, a fucking warning if even that. Calling the police, hunting him down, and making a scandal out of this is frankly, embarrassing. Yeah, he shouldn't have done it, but this is so minor an infraction that hunting him down makes it seem like a joke.
It probably cost the state more money in transportation costs (read: gas money) to reach this guy than he actually fucking stole over the course of months. One wonders why the guy wasn't just confronted by the employee and asked to pay what he actually owed.
If you told me you called the police on a 60 year old man for something like this, I'd wonder if you were a sociopath with nothing better to do. Good luck to him making a comeback at this stage, I'm sure a lot of schools will want a disgraced guy close to death.
I mean hell, this is the kind of scandal and disgrace you could see a suicide over, have some fucking perspective dude.
This is the correct take. Ruining someone’s career over exploiting for an extra $1 of coffee over the course of a period of time is no different than commie fucks hear trying to ruin your career because you didn’t supply money for a kid to get transitioned.
It’s a gross over correction
No, I'm pretty much in agreement with you. I was more speaking in general about how to treat people in authority who do this. They went totally overboard in his particular case (especially taking away his pension), he did admit the theft and apologize, and I bet even most Japanese people would agree the reaction seems extreme. He hasn't "disgraced" himself. I'm sure he'll be able to get another job after some time passes. Maybe not as an administrator, if only because of the ageism there.
Chill out, I'm not the one who called the police. I only asked what people thought the appropriate punishment should be. Getting away with "just say sorry and pay back the $3.50" is too easy unless we're talking about a child.
I would not be surprised if like someone else here suggested the school only used this excuse to cover up some other hidden scandal... or maybe someone else on campus just hated him and wanted to take his job.
It doesn't matter how much you steal, it matters that you steal.
Ah yes, so we should cut his hands off for this grave offense too while we're at it, eh Muhammad?
While we're at it, we should go after people who eat grapes from the grocery store, and people who jaywalk too should be on the chopping block next, they've had it too good for too long. Execute them all I say.
By the way citizen, I noticed you were a few cents off on your tax filing... you should have been more careful. I sure hope you enjoyed your life until now.
This is exactly what has led to the moral decline of the West. You think: well, it's just 50 cents, so I guess stealing isn't all that bad. When this sets in motion the slippery slope, the undefeated champion, up to the point that thefts of up to $950 are tolerated in California.
Churchill once asked a woman if she'd have sex with him for a million pounds. She said yes. Then he asked if she'd do it for 10 pounds. She said, why, do you think I'm a whore? And he said: Ma'am, we've already established what you are, now we're haggling over the price. And this is what you're doing. You have basically stated that it's OK to steal what you regard as small sums, and now you're haggling with California over how much it's OK to steal.
Stealing grapes: yes, people shouldn't be putting their disgusting paws on food to begin with. That's worse than stealing.
Jaywalking isn't a crime anywhere outside of America (that I'm aware of), so that's just uncommon silliness.
Is what happened to this guy draconian? Well, yeah. Was it undeserved? No. Having a functioning society has a price, and I'd rather that people like this pay the price than to have my city turned into Chicago.
No, its not that stealing isn't all that bad, its that there are clear degrees of crime and wrongdoing, you fucking dense buffoon.
The punishment should fit the fucking crime, but then again I'm talking with someone who has no idea that even his history of being a reddit liberal in the past could be used to end him in the future if the pendulum swings back hard enough.
If you think human's life is worth $3.50, I'd ask you what separates you from those niggers who kill each other over $20 in the ghettos. The difference is that you could probably moralize yourself into believing you're somehow better for it because you have a rule you can point to for your bloodlust and sadism, as if you've never done anything wrong in your own life, ever.
Absolutely graceless and completely lacking in self-awareness.
Context, cost and scale are important for determining degrees of punishment.
You're correct that ALL crimes need punishment to deter even simple infractions, but the context of the crime and the scale of the punishment need to be doled out in respect to the cost it has on society when it comes to stability and maintaining cultural consistency.
In short, the context was over something minor (i.e., coffee), the cost of which was also minor (less than $5) while the scale of punishment was more than what was taken, and a potentially greater detriment to the man's life than what crime he had committed.