You Have no Reason not to Rape
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As an atheist, if ANY FAITH said that to me , I'd want a search of their hard drives, cupboards, basement and under the floors.
You saying 'if you don't have a restrictor of a higher power on you, what's to stop you raping people?' Is at best a dehumanisation and derogatory argument and at worst a self report on the state of their morality.
I don't do bad shit because I have enough empathy to know a living thing can feel pain like I can coupled with an understanding of consequences. I'm not going to bitch about killing an animal for food same as killing a person in self defence as I know the consequences for inaction. Under that same reason, I'm NEVER raping someone because there is literally no reason in my head that can justify that action.
If the one that wants to rape is not bound by religion why would he not rape? You can internally rationalize almost any behavior.
I don't think the rapists during Nanking or Rhondda were ALL atheists...
You're right, some cultures don't have an issue with rape but they're usually the ones called barbarians. Hell the ones in refugee camps along their country's border TOLD Europe not to accept the illegals because they were the scum of their country. Scum is scum and going 'well clearly they don't believe the right things' is a cop out to the fundamental issue that there are evil people that don't care about others, only self gratification.
Being an atheist doesn't suddenly mean you removed restrictions like your a robot that got past the 3 laws, the left try to infer that to excuse themselves but they just made a new secular religion that praises the destruction of the West culturally.
I get what you are saying and it is in line with Christianity, we all have an innate drive to not be evil. I think Paul mentions that? I'm far from having a decent understanding of the Bible.
However, we're living in times were pedophilia is close to become accepted in society.
My argument is that if one wants to rape he will rape, there is no reason to not rape. In some cases, Christianity would not help either simply because they will ignore it, but in most cases fear of eternal damnation is a strong motivator to not rape.
Not sure if true or not but "internet lore" was saying that Tolkien took inspiration from South Africa when he created Orcs. There he witness natives just pull women and rape them on the street and then go about their day.
Having an internal moral compass that says rape is bad is good but it has no consequence if you don't follow it, eternal fire is an added level of security that is useful.
A more interesting case, for me, is the Catholic priests that raped little boys. How did they justify it to themselves as Christians? Or similarly, we see gang members that sometimes have crosses around their necks, do they consider themselves Christian?
Some priests are almost certainly sincerely believing Catholics. Others just wanted unsupervised access to children and abused the trust of the institution to get it.
No they weren't, but they would be exponentially worse if they were atheists. The USSR and China are responsible for the highest kill counts in history by a gigantic margin. The French didn't even make it past orgies and guillotines before the whole thing fell apart.
I'm not sure what you're saying and it could break several different ways, but the notion of evil is fundamentally religious. Evil can only be defined in opposition to God.
I think this is where I have a divergence with other atheists or those that define atheism.
A lot would define atheism as not believing in a god or other planes of existence.
I take that point but run further with not worshipping ANY POWER as higher. That INCLUDES the state as what's the point of those saying that the religious are slaves to a higher power as they clasp shackles around their limbs for something like communism?
I don't see the difference in behaviour to those that worship a God to those that worship the state. Only the former tend to be more moral and less genocidey, usually..
I wouldn't say that, evil is the pursuit of short term self gratification at the expense of other living things regardless of consequences. The theme of many faiths seems to place humanity more in the role of caretakers (at least this seems the main theme of Christianity) so throwing that away for self gratification appears to be where most sin comes from.
Maybe the theist is simply insulting the atheist? Doesn't mean HE would rape anyone but he thinks you would.
But really you're just experiencing the Cut Flowers phenomenon of social decay. The link to our moral foundation (religion) has been cut, but there's still water in the plant. Over time this will decay and the plant will dry up, as each successive generation loses the moral basis for the rules they teach to their children and people become more decadent. That's not to say rape will become commonplace in high-functioning societies - but the legal system and risk of punishment or social stigma will become the driving motivation for not raping - so it will be more likely to happen in certain contexts where people can get away with it, or where they think others will look the other way. (famous or powerful people) This is all true now, but fear of God is one more check on bad behavior. It also requires more power in the hands of the state, whereas a moral people are able to live under greater liberty.
Empathy - besides being a genetically inherited trait as someone else brought up - is a contextual emotion that can be modulated by social rules. Plenty of rapists will convince themselves that the other person enjoyed it. As communication has shrunk the world, it's said that our "circle of empathy" has grown to encompass all humanity and basic respect for all mankind, but I argue that that's performative. We generally only have real empathy for our tribe or family. Protecting "our own kind" is the purpose of the emotion. If the social pressure forcing us to feign empathy for strangers ever goes away, it might end up that people see nothing wrong with using rape as a punishment against other nations, criminals, or whores. That has been a thing in some cultures. (then there's the retarded abbos that rape their own siblings...)
Since we're talking about a societal issue, there's no point in Othering the savages and saying YOU wouldn't rape anyone. That's great but you can't claim that for all of your tribe, for all time. It's only by the grace of God or dumb luck that we don't live in those times yet.