You Have no Reason not to Rape
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No they weren't, but they would be exponentially worse if they were atheists. The USSR and China are responsible for the highest kill counts in history by a gigantic margin. The French didn't even make it past orgies and guillotines before the whole thing fell apart.
I'm not sure what you're saying and it could break several different ways, but the notion of evil is fundamentally religious. Evil can only be defined in opposition to God.
I think this is where I have a divergence with other atheists or those that define atheism.
A lot would define atheism as not believing in a god or other planes of existence.
I take that point but run further with not worshipping ANY POWER as higher. That INCLUDES the state as what's the point of those saying that the religious are slaves to a higher power as they clasp shackles around their limbs for something like communism?
I don't see the difference in behaviour to those that worship a God to those that worship the state. Only the former tend to be more moral and less genocidey, usually..
I wouldn't say that, evil is the pursuit of short term self gratification at the expense of other living things regardless of consequences. The theme of many faiths seems to place humanity more in the role of caretakers (at least this seems the main theme of Christianity) so throwing that away for self gratification appears to be where most sin comes from.
Yeah I mean that's cool and everything, but it's just what you personally decided to do. Nobody else has any reason to believe in that since you're not a higher power than them.
I definitely agree what you said is evil, but would long-term self-gratification be any different?
Or what if it's the gratification of your own ingroup at the total expense of everyone else's group?
I'm sure you have feelings on those questions, but they are just that, feelings that partly come from the vestigial Christianity you've absorbed, hence from God.
Of course, I never instructed people to believe my definition as that would be as hypocritical as the communists. But due to that definition I have of atheism, I put the number of ACTUAL atheists EXTREMELY low in that there is more Jedi than atheists.
If I don't believe in God therefore view the bible as a creation of man to better understand and give order to society, how am I led by God? Hypothetically does that not mean we don't need religion as if I'm led by God without following religion then what's the point of an organised faith?
That's the problem of assuming all 'righteousness' is being laid out by a deity, it takes too much power away from the individual for self introspection on the nature of right and wrong and undermines organised faith if we can all be led this way.
The debate is more about if good and evil can exist without God and I agree with the shadow of intent, you can't have righteousness or good / wrong or evil without having a deity.
You are working on a definition that is only relevant to you. You can't even say why that is good, if you ask enough times why is being emphatic good, why is having a workable society good in the end you will not be able to answer, is arbitrary made because you want it to be.
Having a healthy society is not good or bad either. The pedophile tranny wants to destroy society, for him being anti-society, lying, manipulating and corrupting children is moral and good by their own definition.
Why is your definition better then his?
I was an agnostic up until recently. In fact I was an edgelord who disliked religion and all the cringe reddit tier stuff. Still not at the same level as bluestorm. I can't look at the world now and not acknowledge that there is God.
Well what I'm getting at is that your definition of atheism, being a personal definition, is about as relevant as your personal definition of Jedi.
You're not being led by God in the traditional Christian sense. You are, in part, a product and beneficiary of the morality God has imparted into the world, so He is indirectly influencing you. All the true goodness and moral fiber in your life comes from the divine, all the chaos, disorder, and misconceptions comes from corruption. Unfortunately we are often ignorant of which is which.