basically they complain about every tiny thing that could even be construed as vaguely Christian, no wonder American schools are vacuous culture free hell zones
Honestly, it makes complete sense now. This whole "they're getting God out of our schools" thing that boomers love to complain about is in large part perpetrated by the group they eulogize.
I realize this is a "well, duh" moment for most people here, but if you grow up around parents saying this stuff - people who have living memory of saying prayer in homeroom every morning - and realize that those same people in the same breath will mention the glories of postwar Jewish immigration, the "total irrationality" of the Nazis, the virtue of Israel, and Judeo-Christian values, all while the perfect angelic victims they defend are undermining the way of life they claim to care about so much... it blows my mind.
Aggressive secularization is blamed on "atheist activists" generally, but when I looked it up, two of the "Four Horsemen" of New Atheism are Jewish. Steven Pinker is Jewish. Engel v. Vitale is the decision that banned school prayer. Engel, the lead complainant, is Jewish. I'm just shaking my head.
I agree that public school bureaucrats and their woke staff misinterpret the establishment clause, and that many atheists and Jews hate Christianity and demonize it, but that's their right in a religiously pluralistic republic like ours. If you want your kids to get the full religious hit, why not send them to a Catholic school? They're good schools by and large. Much better than their Protestant equivalents, in fact.
"Aggressive secularization"? Are the Jews covert architects of a grand scheme to suppress Christianity? I know, I know, "they killed Jesus!" Seems to me this trend comes from atheistic SJWs and their fellow travelers.
that's their right in a religiously pluralistic republic
Rights end when deliberate undermining of civilization begins.
While Christianity was unfortunately not explicitly in the founding documents it is all over the writings implicitly. Do you think John Adams meant Aztecs when he wrote "moral and religious people"? Even if you can make the very tenuous argument that Christianity shouldn't be acknowledged at the federal level there is absolutely nothing that would come close to providing an interpretation of "freedom of religion" that banned Christian prayer before State sponsored public events, nativity scenes, crosses on public buildings, etc.
The idea that "religious liberty" would extend to satanic temples or muslim calls to prayer is intentional subversion.
I agree that public school bureaucrats and their woke staff misinterpret the establishment clause, and that many atheists and Jews hate Christianity and demonize it, but that's their right in a religiously pluralistic republic like ours. If you want your kids to get the full religious hit, why not send them to a Catholic school? They're good schools by and large. Much better than their Protestant equivalents, in fact.
Everything that has been done is legal (erroneous, legal nonetheless), but they didn't have a right to be here in the first place. That's what we've all missed for decades. There is no First Amendment that privileges foreigners to come here en masse.
I find it revealing that your solution is to ignore the damage done to our culture and institutions and just find a way to help your family survive, somehow, presumably while saying "we just want to be left alone" (you won't be). You're basically letting the deck get stacked against your kids. Even if they go to a truly great school, the rest of the culture is increasingly hostile to them once they graduate. One by one they get picked off. Church attendance is at an all time low, and that's just a statistic. I've seen families get wrecked.
As for Catholic schools - I'm a Protestant, and that actually means something to me beyond not doing mass. I wouldn't let any kid be forced into an environment where they have to pray to Mary as if she intercedes along with Jesus. I question the culture of Catholics as well... Nick Fuentes being a closeted gay isn't exactly the craziest occurrence in that community.
"Aggressive secularization"? Are the Jews covert architects of a grand scheme to suppress Christianity? I know, I know, "they killed Jesus!" Seems to me this trend comes from atheistic SJWs and their fellow travelers.
Let me ask you this, is it necessary for them to be covert architects? Or could it be that a group that hates the concept of Jesus is naturally undermining Christianity?
Where do the "atheistic SJWs" come from? Why do they exist?
260 Jewish actors recently sent a letter to the Oscars complaining about the fact that their ethnicity was not included in the new diversity requirements for award eligibility.
What percentage of people consider Woody Allen to be Jewish?
What percentage of people consider Ivanka Trump to be Jewish?
scapegoating is literally Jewish tradition. During the Jewish Day of Atonement, or Yom Kippur, two goats were brought to the temple wherein one was offered as a blood sacrifice and the other designated the "scapegoat." Throughout the day, the Israelites confessed their sins to the goat, figuratively attaching them to the animal, and thereafter it was expelled from the community taking their sins with it.
I'm not even that remotely religious and frankly I find christian's way of defending themselves against the hostility frustrating to watch but I find you playing a devil's advocate and actual anti-christians heaps more annoying and tiresome. It all comes down to muh rights and at the same time that same group is trying to take away the rights of average people. And as usual, there's no more arguments coming from you when the other person is asking some right questions, it's just so weaselly.
Honestly, it makes complete sense now. This whole "they're getting God out of our schools" thing that boomers love to complain about is in large part perpetrated by the group they eulogize.
I realize this is a "well, duh" moment for most people here, but if you grow up around parents saying this stuff - people who have living memory of saying prayer in homeroom every morning - and realize that those same people in the same breath will mention the glories of postwar Jewish immigration, the "total irrationality" of the Nazis, the virtue of Israel, and Judeo-Christian values, all while the perfect angelic victims they defend are undermining the way of life they claim to care about so much... it blows my mind.
Aggressive secularization is blamed on "atheist activists" generally, but when I looked it up, two of the "Four Horsemen" of New Atheism are Jewish. Steven Pinker is Jewish. Engel v. Vitale is the decision that banned school prayer. Engel, the lead complainant, is Jewish. I'm just shaking my head.
Oh yeah? But how many of them are huwite women?!
I agree that public school bureaucrats and their woke staff misinterpret the establishment clause, and that many atheists and Jews hate Christianity and demonize it, but that's their right in a religiously pluralistic republic like ours. If you want your kids to get the full religious hit, why not send them to a Catholic school? They're good schools by and large. Much better than their Protestant equivalents, in fact.
"Aggressive secularization"? Are the Jews covert architects of a grand scheme to suppress Christianity? I know, I know, "they killed Jesus!" Seems to me this trend comes from atheistic SJWs and their fellow travelers.
Rights end when deliberate undermining of civilization begins.
While Christianity was unfortunately not explicitly in the founding documents it is all over the writings implicitly. Do you think John Adams meant Aztecs when he wrote "moral and religious people"? Even if you can make the very tenuous argument that Christianity shouldn't be acknowledged at the federal level there is absolutely nothing that would come close to providing an interpretation of "freedom of religion" that banned Christian prayer before State sponsored public events, nativity scenes, crosses on public buildings, etc.
The idea that "religious liberty" would extend to satanic temples or muslim calls to prayer is intentional subversion.
Everything that has been done is legal (erroneous, legal nonetheless), but they didn't have a right to be here in the first place. That's what we've all missed for decades. There is no First Amendment that privileges foreigners to come here en masse.
I find it revealing that your solution is to ignore the damage done to our culture and institutions and just find a way to help your family survive, somehow, presumably while saying "we just want to be left alone" (you won't be). You're basically letting the deck get stacked against your kids. Even if they go to a truly great school, the rest of the culture is increasingly hostile to them once they graduate. One by one they get picked off. Church attendance is at an all time low, and that's just a statistic. I've seen families get wrecked.
As for Catholic schools - I'm a Protestant, and that actually means something to me beyond not doing mass. I wouldn't let any kid be forced into an environment where they have to pray to Mary as if she intercedes along with Jesus. I question the culture of Catholics as well... Nick Fuentes being a closeted gay isn't exactly the craziest occurrence in that community.
Let me ask you this, is it necessary for them to be covert architects? Or could it be that a group that hates the concept of Jesus is naturally undermining Christianity?
Where do the "atheistic SJWs" come from? Why do they exist?
Who literally identify as Jewish.
260 Jewish actors recently sent a letter to the Oscars complaining about the fact that their ethnicity was not included in the new diversity requirements for award eligibility.
What percentage of people consider Woody Allen to be Jewish?
What percentage of people consider Ivanka Trump to be Jewish?
Stop lying and/or being retarded.
Stop thinking I give a shit about who believes what. I just know idiotic prejudice and scapegoating when I see it.
scapegoating is literally Jewish tradition. During the Jewish Day of Atonement, or Yom Kippur, two goats were brought to the temple wherein one was offered as a blood sacrifice and the other designated the "scapegoat." Throughout the day, the Israelites confessed their sins to the goat, figuratively attaching them to the animal, and thereafter it was expelled from the community taking their sins with it.
I'm not even that remotely religious and frankly I find christian's way of defending themselves against the hostility frustrating to watch but I find you playing a devil's advocate and actual anti-christians heaps more annoying and tiresome. It all comes down to muh rights and at the same time that same group is trying to take away the rights of average people. And as usual, there's no more arguments coming from you when the other person is asking some right questions, it's just so weaselly.
In what ways are "the Jews" "trying to take away" my rights?
I'll be glad to answer any questions. So far all I've received in reply are insults and anti-Jewish sputtering hate.
I'm only anti-prejudice and anti over-generalization and am sick of the constant barrage of hate for the Jews I read here.
What would you like to argue? I just made a few idle observations. I'll be glad to explicate any assumptions I have that I may be unaware of.