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Ten More Years of Dragon Ball to come. (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by redman012 1 year ago by redman012 +25 / -0
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– redman012 [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

To be fair, I actually looked into it a bit, the creation of “canon” content starting with the Yo Son Goku OVA happened because of Toriyama’s disgust at Evolution

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– Adamrises 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Right, everything happened because of Evolution being so bad.

That doesn't justify the need to take things everyone already loved and then re-canonize them just to ruin them. Like DB Minus makes Bardock and Goku's past so much worse, but now we have to stick with it because apparently the TV Movie was just too popular.

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– RipleywasRightLV426 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I mean at this point I think you can just pick what you like and just ignore the rest because clearly they don't know what they're doing. The offical "canon" is a complete mess right now and as someone who religiously watched every episode during its original broadcast run I couldn't tell you what actually is and isn't anymore.

The chronology is super weird now with the manga going in a different direction than the anime, the movie chronologies that are now being cherry picked, the semi canonization of the time fuckery of the Xenoverse games, the introduction of mangas and animes of the Dragon Ball Heroes and Super Dragon Ball Heroes, parallel "Xeno" universes where GT is canon, it's a complete fucking mess and makes me miss the days when people just argued over GT and made SSJ5 fanart.

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– Adamrises 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That's what I've always done. Some of the DBZ movies are great enough with nothing in them that would definitively mark them as "non-canon" other than difficulty slotting it in the timeline.

Like, I'm happy for the spinoffs for complete fanwankery like Heroes or Xeno were. But reopening the finished series just to shit on it this badly is just painful. Let it all die and stop fucking with something people have spent decades being fans of by trying to "properly canonize" it.

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– RipleywasRightLV426 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The movies are interesting because they really don't fit in the timeline and never did. I've watched retrospectives and they pretty much their own DBZ timeline with recurring characters like Icarus. So while they added to, it never fucked with the main series like all this new bullshit has.

It really comes down to Toyotarou who started this. He was reopening the series when he wrote Dragon Ball AF and then he made all his fan stuff canon when he took on Super. Did we all really need Xicor to be canon? It's such a mess at this there really is no "canon" to follow.

It's very similar to how they handled the Aliens movie series. There's so many spinoffs, novels that are canon or not depending on the week, the rpg which canonizes some of the comics and unfilmed scripts. videogame timelines etc. At the end of the day I just ignore it and pick and choose what I like.

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