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There is no political solution to communists (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by Cronosmax2 2 years ago by Cronosmax2 +44 / -0
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– Kienan 31 points 2 years ago +31 / -0

Capitalism is based on the well-founded notion that individuals are better at determining how to distribute resources than a centralized entity.

I'll go a step farther/simpler. We are talking about arguing with communists, after all:

Capitalism is the idea that things have value.

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– 8BitArchitect 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

I don't think defining capitalism as essentially the "utility theory of value" vs. communism's "labor theory of value" is sufficient to distinguish it from pre-enlightenment economic systems, but given that "capitalism" itself (the word, not the idea) is a communist invention, perhaps we're falling victim to the trap of letting the enemy set the terms of the discussion.

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– Kienan 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

I'm not talking utility theory, I just mean, you can't have free market capitalism without freedom to trade, and trade is the exchange of one thing (usually of money/currency) for goods. Goods have value. It's not necessarily a fixed or absolute value, but there is obviously value there. When I said I was making it simpler, I meant it. I'm not talking any specific theory of values, just that value itself exists. I guess you could call it the Value Theory of Value.

Communists don't even like to acknowledge that, because it hurts the idea of sharing everything equally. If things have value, and take labor to produce, there's incentive to get good deals for it, or otherwise not share the wealth.

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– Witch_Lover 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

It severely damaged the West since the forced dichotomy imparted a sacred character to an economic system, which is just a tool and not a functional belief system.

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– Flarisu 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Seeing as Marx invented the word Capitalism and prior to him there was no word for free market economies based on free exchange of capital, yes, it's the primary example of communists corrupting language.

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– Flarisu 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Things have value, and demanding that others give you things of value simply because they are part of society is a violation of their rights.

Combine this with the communists' theory of labour, and you can prove that communism is just a rewording of the re-institution of slavery, after all, you don't deserve what you produce, we do.

These people are slavery advocates, just so long as they are the beneficiaries. Why don't they understand that communism doesn't work?

Because they don't work either.

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