In medical emergencies triage may require you to allow people to die to save the most lives possible with the resources on hand. The only difference is active/passive involvement.
But if you believe the solution to the trolly problem is to actively change tracks, then you could consider AoV's solution humane if it causes less total deaths.
That's doing your best to save as many lives as you can without shooting anyone. It's not the same as murder.
if you believe the solution to the trolly problem is to actively change tracks
Nobody would kidnap a bunch of people and engineer that trolly scenario with "ethics experiments" goals in mind. It'd just be a game for his amusement/ego trip. It'd be just about sadism, regardless of how he justifies it. Such a person is going to continue to play with the survivors until he tortures and rapes the last one to death. Everyone in the tracks and the person at the button is going to die. The solution to any actual trolly problem that could exist in real life is not to engage with the sadism of whoever put everyone in that situation by playing along. Every death will be on the lunatic, not you.
I wouldn't say that protecting your border is murder. But let's assume that it is. I'm merely remarking on the irony that something that is supposedly 'inhumane' would lead to the most humane outcome, namely invaders not coming and not dying in leaky vessels.
Is this meant to counterclaim that some immigrants hold weapons? If so, I still don't think we should gun them indiscriminately. I especially don't think we should call gunning them indiscriminately 'humane.'
I'm just against calling murder humane.
In medical emergencies triage may require you to allow people to die to save the most lives possible with the resources on hand. The only difference is active/passive involvement.
But if you believe the solution to the trolly problem is to actively change tracks, then you could consider AoV's solution humane if it causes less total deaths.
That's doing your best to save as many lives as you can without shooting anyone. It's not the same as murder.
Nobody would kidnap a bunch of people and engineer that trolly scenario with "ethics experiments" goals in mind. It'd just be a game for his amusement/ego trip. It'd be just about sadism, regardless of how he justifies it. Such a person is going to continue to play with the survivors until he tortures and rapes the last one to death. Everyone in the tracks and the person at the button is going to die. The solution to any actual trolly problem that could exist in real life is not to engage with the sadism of whoever put everyone in that situation by playing along. Every death will be on the lunatic, not you.
I wouldn't say that protecting your border is murder. But let's assume that it is. I'm merely remarking on the irony that something that is supposedly 'inhumane' would lead to the most humane outcome, namely invaders not coming and not dying in leaky vessels.
That wordplay, man.
There's nothing merciful or compassionate about shooting unarmed people. It is not humane.
Michael Brown would like to have a talk with you. And I think invaders fall in that same category.
I admire how you stick to moral principle, I really do. You're a Catholic, correct?
Is this meant to counterclaim that some immigrants hold weapons? If so, I still don't think we should gun them indiscriminately. I especially don't think we should call gunning them indiscriminately 'humane.'
Yes, I'm Catholic.