Washington U. Prof: AI Girlfriends Are Ruining a Generation of Men
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Most guys falling into that pit of inceldom and other "giving up" mindsets are just a few good opportunities from being normal and functional adults.
Society just offers no comeback mechanics for those who missed the growth train when it was easy to get. That's why they turn to easy escapism like Waifus or Modern Evangelists like Tate (or any other manosphere type guru). Because they have no idea how to otherwise fix the issue, and they really aren't incentivized to anyway.
It's become too easy to be a loser. That's the problem.
Yes, most people can't be natural born winners. That's how winning works, only a select few get to do it. Once too many start doing it, the bar raises and the numbers settle.
So you either build a society that has balancing mechanics to keep losers in the game until they manage to become successful after an intial rocky start, like we did for a few thousand years, or you simply shit on them for not being Perfect from birth and you end up with increasing social problems ("incels," trannies, mass shooters) that you keep acting like you aren't contributing to.
Somehow I feel like you will still deflect blame despite being part of group 2.
#winning is also an artificial, modern category. The number of "win" conditions used to be much more diverse but are dissolving in the flattened social media landscape where Miami onlyfans thots are the cutting edge and a man can't be "high value" unless he's buff, six figures, and swinging twelve inches off the deck of his yacht.
In a broad generalized sense sure. But in the dating game, its not. Because the win conditions are pretty easy to define and there are clearly defined losers. Being rich, being strong, being dangerous, being charismatic. They've always been a winning trait through all of history for acquiring women and if you went against a guy in a competition (directly or by comparison) you would be a loser to those looking.
The only difference now is that there were consequences for women who gambled and lost. Premarital sex, children out of wedlock, divorced, sluttery in general. All of them were basically a millstone to be labeled with. So while they (or really their dad picking for them) used to have to settle for "losers" who needed time and experience to become men worth something, now they can just keep chomping at the ankles of the top 20% of men forever until eventually they catch one by sheer luck.
Or waste all their youth and value until the clocking ticking causes a panic attack and they pick up a retarded simp.
Everyone who exists is the product of an unending series of genetic winners. And things seemed to work just find before the 1960s. I regard having a decent life, marriage, kids as 'winning'. What happened?
Yeah, that, though I'd rather structure things in such a way that they don't start being losers at all.
You're mistaken, I can see the rottenness of society, and obviously it is the ultimate cause of mass shootings (as such mass shootings were comparatively rare in the past, if I'm not mistaken), but this does not absolve the mass shooters (not that you meant to absolve them).
That's patooie. Statistically speaking, most men AND women lose their virginity during the ages at which they are in (or would be in) highschool or college. The vast majority have lost virginity by 25, and after that, it's pretty stable.
I am not aware of data showing that "every girls over 18 has a double digit body count" or anything even close to that. Can you back that up?
For me, some years ago, I knew plenty of dudes (myself included) who couldn't get any during college...couldn't even go on dates...yet who managed to do just fine after graduating, getting a job, etc.
I do agree that things are much, much harder for males with lower levels of education and lower income earners, but still not as crazy as you say.
I think our society sucks, but you're wrong.
Some reading and data:
https://datepsychology.com/are-27-of-young-men-really-virgins-and-why/
https://www.livescience.com/13072-sex-stats-virgins-rise.html
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2017/201706_NSFG.htm
You shouldn't come swinging with "muh stats" when you immediately show your are willing to pull unsaid stuff out of your ass to justify your conclusion. That's literally bad stats 101.
Because he didn't say virginity once, nor did I. He said "experience" and "attention." I shouldn't need to explain how those two things are not equivalent, which then makes your entire point invalid. Double so when you pull out anecdotes that "prove" everyone else is wrong in their experience, just like how women have plenty anecdotes of their triple digit body friends being "happy and successful and their husband not caring" (a year before the 4th divorce).
This is important because simply "got laid once" isn't a high bar to clear, and is far, far from enough to simply make a guy flip from "incel loser" to "normal, stable man." You need a certain amount of experience, not just in sex but in courtship, romance, and the entire process, to develop a properly functioning brain. This amount differs per person but its basic human instinct to need it.
That's why in your argument , buying a hooker instantly fixes all incels instantly. As they cease to be virgins so boom problem solved. But we both know that isn't the case.
I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote. "Experience" and "attention." Well, if you're not a virgin, definitionally you've got some experience, and attention is more common than fucking. Since there's not really any great ways to quantify "attention," virginity is one of the better proxies that we have.
The most important part of my post was that it's horseshit that "every girls over 18 has a double digit body count." That's just laughable crybaby-feels-bad-for-himself bullshit.
I'll have to think about this. I don't think I've ever heard the claim before that if you don't date as an adolescent (brain still developing) your brain will not function properly. That doesn't seem right to me.
Nope, I never said anything remotely about that. I said that the vast majority of both women and men, by age 25, are no longer virgins and therefore have sexual experience. I don't make ANY causal link between sex and brain development or hookers "fixing" incels. I think you're betraying what strikes many people as "off" about the incel mindset--core to the incel belief is that if one gets fucked, you're fixed. If guys/girls would pay attention to you, you would be fixed. Etc. I don't believe that.