Washington U. Prof: AI Girlfriends Are Ruining a Generation of Men
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That's patooie. Statistically speaking, most men AND women lose their virginity during the ages at which they are in (or would be in) highschool or college. The vast majority have lost virginity by 25, and after that, it's pretty stable.
I am not aware of data showing that "every girls over 18 has a double digit body count" or anything even close to that. Can you back that up?
For me, some years ago, I knew plenty of dudes (myself included) who couldn't get any during college...couldn't even go on dates...yet who managed to do just fine after graduating, getting a job, etc.
I do agree that things are much, much harder for males with lower levels of education and lower income earners, but still not as crazy as you say.
I think our society sucks, but you're wrong.
Some reading and data:
https://datepsychology.com/are-27-of-young-men-really-virgins-and-why/
https://www.livescience.com/13072-sex-stats-virgins-rise.html
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2017/201706_NSFG.htm
You shouldn't come swinging with "muh stats" when you immediately show your are willing to pull unsaid stuff out of your ass to justify your conclusion. That's literally bad stats 101.
Because he didn't say virginity once, nor did I. He said "experience" and "attention." I shouldn't need to explain how those two things are not equivalent, which then makes your entire point invalid. Double so when you pull out anecdotes that "prove" everyone else is wrong in their experience, just like how women have plenty anecdotes of their triple digit body friends being "happy and successful and their husband not caring" (a year before the 4th divorce).
This is important because simply "got laid once" isn't a high bar to clear, and is far, far from enough to simply make a guy flip from "incel loser" to "normal, stable man." You need a certain amount of experience, not just in sex but in courtship, romance, and the entire process, to develop a properly functioning brain. This amount differs per person but its basic human instinct to need it.
That's why in your argument , buying a hooker instantly fixes all incels instantly. As they cease to be virgins so boom problem solved. But we both know that isn't the case.
I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote. "Experience" and "attention." Well, if you're not a virgin, definitionally you've got some experience, and attention is more common than fucking. Since there's not really any great ways to quantify "attention," virginity is one of the better proxies that we have.
The most important part of my post was that it's horseshit that "every girls over 18 has a double digit body count." That's just laughable crybaby-feels-bad-for-himself bullshit.
I'll have to think about this. I don't think I've ever heard the claim before that if you don't date as an adolescent (brain still developing) your brain will not function properly. That doesn't seem right to me.
Nope, I never said anything remotely about that. I said that the vast majority of both women and men, by age 25, are no longer virgins and therefore have sexual experience. I don't make ANY causal link between sex and brain development or hookers "fixing" incels. I think you're betraying what strikes many people as "off" about the incel mindset--core to the incel belief is that if one gets fucked, you're fixed. If guys/girls would pay attention to you, you would be fixed. Etc. I don't believe that.
Then there is no further conversation to be had. My piece is said.