You need a place to actually give birth, and your wife will probably need medicine, safety, and a more sterile environment that your fucking basement. You need to get a midwife at absolute minimum.
Or, you could just risk having a dead wife and dead kids.
Not to mention the implications of being an "unperson" unless you're black and can lie about being a "refugee" from BongoBongoLand.
Oh, and hanging around or being in possession of a child for which you have NO paperwork. Again, that's only unquestioned if you claim to be from BongoBongoLand.
You can be an illegal of any variety. You can get around the SSN in the US, it's just that most people don't. You'll still probably have to register, and it will be a problem having a proper career. Unpersoning is the correct problem.
I didn't have an SSN until I was around 10 or so. Not like I was seeking employment at that age but my parents had no issues. Mind you, I am of the millennial generation so it was a Different Time™.
The only issues I have from this is that the state I was born in is not any where near the state and region that issued my SSN. That plus having a very common name makes background checks a pain.
A lot of that shit is way overrated. Midwife, yes, get a midwife.
I was born at home, as were my siblings, and I know others who were too.
As to not registering...not touching that, that's up to the individual, but seems a bit (yeah, just a tiny bit) sketchy.
You have to remember that a lot of modern medicine is propped up on propaganda and narrative. Not saying it's useless, but there's a huge and orchestrated push to make people dependent on it, for both control and profit. Sometimes it is useless, and sometimes it goes beyond that to deadly...but other times it's lifesaving. People just need to keep that in mind when making their decisions.
The problem with not registering is that you'll basically have to register one way or another. You'll certainly have to pay tax. And, unfortunately, if you don't apply for SS, they'll still take it from your paycheck. I don't like it, but blame "The Greatest Generation" for believing in Roosevelt's Democratic Socialism.
I'm sure plenty of people can be born in places that are not hospitals, but it's always sub-optimal to birth a child that doesn't have ready access to medical equipment. Honestly, if you've got nothing, you'll still want to call an ambulance just in case something goes totally sideways. I know it's not normal for women to die in child birth, but it was exceedingly common for that to be the type of death that killed women. Really, it's best not to take chances.
Beyond a surprise circumcision, there's little the hospitals actually going to do to hurt your kid without your permission. They're very unlikely to hurt the mother intentionally.
It's honestly a little weird how fucking good they are at c-sections. It's kind of a factory procedure at this point. Docs and nurses will be kind of annoyed if you don't want one because it takes so much longer.
The problem with not registering is that you'll basically have to register one way or another.
One of the reasons I said it was "a tiny bit sketchy." I'm certainly not saying it's a good idea.
I know it's not normal for women to die in child birth, but it was exceedingly common for that to be the type of death that killed women.
Not only has medicine improved, but knowledge has as well. It's safer than ever to do a homebirth.
Heck, I just looked it up (this was just the first study I found, not claiming it's indicative or inclusive of reality), home births had lower mortality than hospital births in normal circumstances, but if surgery was required that of course flips. But if you're relatively confident of a smooth birth, you're potentially (I do stress potentially) better off with a home birth. If you have any sort of risk factors you want to stronger consider a hospital though, at the very least.
Now, full disclaimer, there's plenty of adjustments you could make to that, like the people having homebirths are probably significantly healthier than average. Who knows what the number would look like if you took the landwhales and the like out of the equation, for example.
Beyond a surprise circumcision, there's little the hospitals actually going to do to hurt your kid without your permission. They're very unlikely to hurt the mother intentionally.
I'd argue a hospital, with all the infections roaming around, is a very bad place for a baby to be in general. If you get checkups before hand, and know things are healthy, I think a homebirth is fine. I'm not saying it's for everyone, I'm not telling anyone that's what they should do, but I think the idea that it's not feasible, or quite risky, is outdated.
It's honestly a little weird how fucking good they are at c-sections. It's kind of a factory procedure at this point. Docs and nurses will be kind of annoyed if you don't want one because it takes so much longer.
I don't view that as a good thing, personally. In fact I view it as somewhat anti-human. Birth is one of the core components of life, I don't think that process should be done away with for convenience, no matter how skilled they've gotten at it. Who knows what that does to the mother/child bond, too (another study I should look up later.) All sorts of chemicals are released during birth, cutting that process short could be bad for the child or mother. Also, there's always been a distinction between natural birth and C-section or the like. Not claiming it's a medical source, but Macbeth springs to mind. "From his mother's womb untimely ripped," and all that. Which always in turn reminds me of the Reduced Shakespeare bit.
These rules get bent for muh poor undocumented immigrants, of course, but I suspect that if an actual white Westerner revealed his lack of an SSN, he would not be met with the same understanding, but with fines, audits, and jail time.
Not necessarily.
The Act that established Social Security doesn't make it mandatory. There is no reason you have to get an SSN. The problem is that it is effectively impossible to get even middle-class employment without an SSN or some other form of state registration. There is no crime or fine related to it.
However, your wages will still be garnished for Social Security. And if you don't get an SSN, you can't ever receive SS benefits, even if you have other forms of government ID. The later you get your SSN, the later your benefits become, which means the less you will pay out.
It's a shitty ponzi scheme which means you have no other choice but to participate in it if you ever want to see funds from it; but there's no crimes associated with not getting one.
That is very stupid, and wildly dangerous.
You need a place to actually give birth, and your wife will probably need medicine, safety, and a more sterile environment that your fucking basement. You need to get a midwife at absolute minimum.
Or, you could just risk having a dead wife and dead kids.
Not to mention the implications of being an "unperson" unless you're black and can lie about being a "refugee" from BongoBongoLand.
Oh, and hanging around or being in possession of a child for which you have NO paperwork. Again, that's only unquestioned if you claim to be from BongoBongoLand.
You can be an illegal of any variety. You can get around the SSN in the US, it's just that most people don't. You'll still probably have to register, and it will be a problem having a proper career. Unpersoning is the correct problem.
I didn't have an SSN until I was around 10 or so. Not like I was seeking employment at that age but my parents had no issues. Mind you, I am of the millennial generation so it was a Different Time™.
The only issues I have from this is that the state I was born in is not any where near the state and region that issued my SSN. That plus having a very common name makes background checks a pain.
A moderate bleed and she's dead before the ambulance arrives. A severe one and she's dead before you get done telling 911 where to go.
A hospital is the only proper place to give birth.
Women can survive a home birth, but there's no reason to recommend it.
I'm fairly certain there are plenty of clinics that can assist in child birth, but you simply can't remove a hospital from the list of options.
If something goes wrong.
Every single person in history was birthed in other places than hospitals untill very recently.
And the mortality rate for mother and child reflected that throughout human history.
...you must know about Semmelweis, right?
A lot of that shit is way overrated. Midwife, yes, get a midwife.
I was born at home, as were my siblings, and I know others who were too.
As to not registering...not touching that, that's up to the individual, but seems a bit (yeah, just a tiny bit) sketchy.
You have to remember that a lot of modern medicine is propped up on propaganda and narrative. Not saying it's useless, but there's a huge and orchestrated push to make people dependent on it, for both control and profit. Sometimes it is useless, and sometimes it goes beyond that to deadly...but other times it's lifesaving. People just need to keep that in mind when making their decisions.
The problem with not registering is that you'll basically have to register one way or another. You'll certainly have to pay tax. And, unfortunately, if you don't apply for SS, they'll still take it from your paycheck. I don't like it, but blame "The Greatest Generation" for believing in Roosevelt's Democratic Socialism.
I'm sure plenty of people can be born in places that are not hospitals, but it's always sub-optimal to birth a child that doesn't have ready access to medical equipment. Honestly, if you've got nothing, you'll still want to call an ambulance just in case something goes totally sideways. I know it's not normal for women to die in child birth, but it was exceedingly common for that to be the type of death that killed women. Really, it's best not to take chances.
Beyond a surprise circumcision, there's little the hospitals actually going to do to hurt your kid without your permission. They're very unlikely to hurt the mother intentionally.
It's honestly a little weird how fucking good they are at c-sections. It's kind of a factory procedure at this point. Docs and nurses will be kind of annoyed if you don't want one because it takes so much longer.
One of the reasons I said it was "a tiny bit sketchy." I'm certainly not saying it's a good idea.
Not only has medicine improved, but knowledge has as well. It's safer than ever to do a homebirth.
Heck, I just looked it up (this was just the first study I found, not claiming it's indicative or inclusive of reality), home births had lower mortality than hospital births in normal circumstances, but if surgery was required that of course flips. But if you're relatively confident of a smooth birth, you're potentially (I do stress potentially) better off with a home birth. If you have any sort of risk factors you want to stronger consider a hospital though, at the very least.
Now, full disclaimer, there's plenty of adjustments you could make to that, like the people having homebirths are probably significantly healthier than average. Who knows what the number would look like if you took the landwhales and the like out of the equation, for example.
I'd argue a hospital, with all the infections roaming around, is a very bad place for a baby to be in general. If you get checkups before hand, and know things are healthy, I think a homebirth is fine. I'm not saying it's for everyone, I'm not telling anyone that's what they should do, but I think the idea that it's not feasible, or quite risky, is outdated.
I don't view that as a good thing, personally. In fact I view it as somewhat anti-human. Birth is one of the core components of life, I don't think that process should be done away with for convenience, no matter how skilled they've gotten at it. Who knows what that does to the mother/child bond, too (another study I should look up later.) All sorts of chemicals are released during birth, cutting that process short could be bad for the child or mother. Also, there's always been a distinction between natural birth and C-section or the like. Not claiming it's a medical source, but Macbeth springs to mind. "From his mother's womb untimely ripped," and all that. Which always in turn reminds me of the Reduced Shakespeare bit.
Midwife is better than hospital unless you need emergency surgery.
Sure, but don't just do it alone and hope for the best, there's a reason why one of the primary forms of death for women was "child birth".
Passports are over-rated. But, you will probably need them for international travel one way or another.
Not necessarily.
The Act that established Social Security doesn't make it mandatory. There is no reason you have to get an SSN. The problem is that it is effectively impossible to get even middle-class employment without an SSN or some other form of state registration. There is no crime or fine related to it.
However, your wages will still be garnished for Social Security. And if you don't get an SSN, you can't ever receive SS benefits, even if you have other forms of government ID. The later you get your SSN, the later your benefits become, which means the less you will pay out.
It's a shitty ponzi scheme which means you have no other choice but to participate in it if you ever want to see funds from it; but there's no crimes associated with not getting one.