This is the natural result of their COVID policies
I'm not entirely sure, it actually sounds like a further extension of their 'War on Terror'. Remember when Schumer demanded that the protesters of January 6 be put on a no-fly-list?
How about you clean your own fucking plane instead of trying to force passengers to clean puke.
I doubt that it was the responsibility of those employees to clean up puke. The fault lies with Air Canada, not with the lower employees that they will no doubt try to feed to the wolves to save their pathetic skins.
Maybe not these ones. As far as I know, the plane lands, it's cleaned up, and only then do passengers board. The cleaning crew did a bad job and then left, I don't think it's the stewardesses who do that.
No, but it's on the stewardesses to recognize that an improperly cleaned seat is unusable and that it's a maintenance issue. Same with the pilot.
At that point they simply have to ask for volunteers to take a later flight and offer an incentive. If no one takes it, they involuntarily bump two people, and apply the DOT compensation rules.
Since airlines are allowed to overbook by law, they routinely have to bump people both voluntarily and involuntarily. If the aircrew didn't know what to do, they simply had to ask the gate staff, who probably do it at least once a day.
It's really simple, and the aircrew and pilot turned it into a big deal because they were trying help the airline duck its financial responsibility in this situation.
No, but it's on the stewardesses to recognize that an improperly cleaned seat is unusable and that it's a maintenance issue. Same with the pilot.
Absolutely. I think the pilot is the greater issue here, at least from what I read. When they failed no miserably during cleaning, there may not be a good solution here - it's either delaying the flight to clean it up or denying these people boarding.
I'm playing Devil's advocate a bit, but I think at least 80-90% of the fault lies with the company for not having proper procedures in place for such a situation, rather than with low-level employees.
At that point they simply have to ask for volunteers to take a later flight and offer an incentive. If no one takes it, they involuntarily bump two people, and apply the DOT compensation rules.
Yes, that is the best solution.
It's really simple, and the aircrew and pilot turned it into a big deal because they were trying help the airline duck its financial responsibility in this situation.
I'm 99% sure that they don't care about the 600 dollars or whatever that the airline would have to pay. It's not their money.
Which raises the question: is it incompetence or malice?
It's not the purview of the flight attendants. It's their job to inform the captain who should deem the aircraft not fit for dispatch if it's bad enough (which it might be given that other passengers could smell it), or otherwise have those seats blocked off.
I think another factor not mentioned is the crunch time to turn the plane around at the gate.
Corporate likely has squeezed the cleaners or the flight attendants who have to clean between flights so much that they don't have the time to properly handle any aberrations, including something as common as someone puking in their seat.
Similarly, the militancy of the flight crew likely emanates from the fact that they are squeezed by corporate as well. All they care about is that the flight pushes off from the gate within some allotted window.
I'm not entirely sure, it actually sounds like a further extension of their 'War on Terror'. Remember when Schumer demanded that the protesters of January 6 be put on a no-fly-list?
Using it to threaten political enemies has quite a history, but making airline employees the foot soldiers seems to be a much more recent phenomenon.
I doubt that it was the responsibility of those employees to clean up puke.
Of course not; this bullshit starts at the top. It's not their responsibility to bring the passengers wipes in the expectation that they would clean the seats themselves either though. Don't do that shit unless you're willing to clean it yourself.
The fault lies with Air Canada, not with the lower employees that they will no doubt try to feed to the wolves to save their pathetic skins.
Each party is responsible to the extent that they're responsible. No doubt Air Canada will try to throw those employees under the bus, but that pilot is just as deserving of being canned as the CEO.
I'm not entirely sure, it actually sounds like a further extension of their 'War on Terror'. Remember when Schumer demanded that the protesters of January 6 be put on a no-fly-list?
I doubt that it was the responsibility of those employees to clean up puke. The fault lies with Air Canada, not with the lower employees that they will no doubt try to feed to the wolves to save their pathetic skins.
Maybe not these ones. As far as I know, the plane lands, it's cleaned up, and only then do passengers board. The cleaning crew did a bad job and then left, I don't think it's the stewardesses who do that.
No, but it's on the stewardesses to recognize that an improperly cleaned seat is unusable and that it's a maintenance issue. Same with the pilot.
At that point they simply have to ask for volunteers to take a later flight and offer an incentive. If no one takes it, they involuntarily bump two people, and apply the DOT compensation rules.
Since airlines are allowed to overbook by law, they routinely have to bump people both voluntarily and involuntarily. If the aircrew didn't know what to do, they simply had to ask the gate staff, who probably do it at least once a day.
It's really simple, and the aircrew and pilot turned it into a big deal because they were trying help the airline duck its financial responsibility in this situation.
Absolutely. I think the pilot is the greater issue here, at least from what I read. When they failed no miserably during cleaning, there may not be a good solution here - it's either delaying the flight to clean it up or denying these people boarding.
I'm playing Devil's advocate a bit, but I think at least 80-90% of the fault lies with the company for not having proper procedures in place for such a situation, rather than with low-level employees.
Yes, that is the best solution.
I'm 99% sure that they don't care about the 600 dollars or whatever that the airline would have to pay. It's not their money.
Which raises the question: is it incompetence or malice?
It's not the purview of the flight attendants. It's their job to inform the captain who should deem the aircraft not fit for dispatch if it's bad enough (which it might be given that other passengers could smell it), or otherwise have those seats blocked off.
I think another factor not mentioned is the crunch time to turn the plane around at the gate.
Corporate likely has squeezed the cleaners or the flight attendants who have to clean between flights so much that they don't have the time to properly handle any aberrations, including something as common as someone puking in their seat.
Similarly, the militancy of the flight crew likely emanates from the fact that they are squeezed by corporate as well. All they care about is that the flight pushes off from the gate within some allotted window.
Using it to threaten political enemies has quite a history, but making airline employees the foot soldiers seems to be a much more recent phenomenon.
Of course not; this bullshit starts at the top. It's not their responsibility to bring the passengers wipes in the expectation that they would clean the seats themselves either though. Don't do that shit unless you're willing to clean it yourself.
Each party is responsible to the extent that they're responsible. No doubt Air Canada will try to throw those employees under the bus, but that pilot is just as deserving of being canned as the CEO.