You just need to be open to the fact that the story might be something else besides "nigs gonna nig."
I never once said "there is no way" to your story. I even said it right there:
I'd not be opposed to believing it happened.
I just think your story has an almost minuscule chance of being true, and you only thinking it because of your own victim complex. Which is why you spent so much of your initial comment whining about yourself. You wanted to whine about how meanie people were to you as a kid, and constructed a perfect segue-way to tie it to an unrelated story.
The student[s] aren't even being named by the district
Which is why I initially even said I doubt the expulsion part was true, as it wasn't reported anywhere else. Which would undermine your point even further.
Its only the one student who wasn't being named, btw. The stabbee (can't say victim, might trigger) is named right there. We have full statements from her mother and everything about her life and giving a lot of details about her. Which is one reason why I leaned into "hood stuff." Because Naima's hopes and dreams were stereotypical hood interests.
You can keep naming examples of "one time, in a random unrelated and completely different scenario someone LIED" but you've yet to do anything but that whataboutism and hope it would accomplish something. I've also seen Men lie about girlfriends being crazy, does that mean I should accept that everytime a man claims one is I believe he is the actual crazy one?
so much of your initial comment whining about yourself.
Exactly how else am I going to relate to you that public education is not well equipped to care for or protect kids with mental disabilities?
I also linked an article about an autistic girl that was bullied to death by students and teachers. The only thing is, I'm a grown man. All that happened to me was ancient history. I have no reason to lie about the system and no lawsuits pending. The point I'm making by sharing my own experience and also pointing to the experience of others is that it wasn't just me.
I can also go on to show you articles about autistic people being kept in cages and treated as if they're possessed by demons. You should see the shit Catholics, Mormons, scientologists and jehovah's witnesses do to us. Did you know the type of therapy banned from being used against gays, gay conversion therapy based on ABA, is also the leading gold star therapy recommended for autistic kids? Despite it increasing suicide rates?
You can keep naming examples of "one time, in a random unrelated and completely different scenario someone LIED" but you've yet to do anything but that whataboutism and hope it would accomplish something. I've also seen Men lie about girlfriends being crazy, does that mean I should accept that everytime a man claims one is I believe he is the actual crazy one?
You were acting as if the expulsion was proof of anything. I'm saying, the institution is corrupt and inept. Expulsion is just proof of expulsion and likely very little else.
You can't both understand American public education is garbage and unfair to many types of students... and then take the rejection seal of disapproval and treat it as likely valid. There are so many fucking ways to game the system and here you are thinking they actually did their due-diligence. What a damn laugh. Schools are FAMOUS for having terrible internal processes all across the country, and always taking the easy way out or the way out least likely to cause waves in the community.
But because we disagree, you're willing to look away.
Exactly how else am I going to relate to you that public education is not well equipped to care for or protect kids with mental disabilities?
Well considering that had nothing to do with the story until you tied it in, I don't see how it was necessary to relate it at all.
I basically raised my autistic brother. I got a degree in Counseling and Therapy back in the 2000s when Autism was such a common issue that almost every class had a section on dealing with them, from the "high functioning" who will make you hate them with how annoying they are to the barely functional psychos who are kept in cages because that's the most safe thing you can do for them. Because their brains are so unfettered they will use monkey strength on just slamming their heads into walls and beating anyone near them.
I get everything you are trying to say about it. I am simply saying its superfluous. Because it has nothing to do with anything. Its as valid as concocting a story about her dad raping her at home and how that creates impulsive violent behaviors as they lash out, and then linking stories about how society fails rape victims.
You were acting as if the expulsion was proof of anything.
I didn't. I said it was literally the only info we have and then Occam's Razor'd to the most simple explanation based on the minimal factors we had.
You extrapolated from it that she had "anger issues" and that because she was still friends with kids in public school, it meant she was some pariah and then went into your piece about autism. You used it as proof first. You can't get mad now about it.
Schools are FAMOUS for having terrible internal processes all across the country, and always taking the easy way out or the way out least likely to cause waves in the community.
Nigga, I was literally removed from class due to "Acting out" and forced under the care of a feminist guidance counselor who demanded I call my mother and apologize for "lying about her" when I opened up about why I was acting out. And then put in a "growth group" when a bunch of kids on the line for expulsion due to actual violence.
I'm not looking away. I've looked at it long enough. You just need to construct this strawman of my position because I had the gall to disagree with you that "this might not be an autistic victim story."
It's just amazing to me how outlandish you find the suggestion, while at the same time, being a victim of these systems. You also pretty much have open disdain for many groups of people.
You're very troubled and nobody took care of you. I'm sorry you went through that and you've been left fucked up because of it.
Its outlandish because its based on nothing. Why didn't you assume she was a victim of rape or just raw physical child abuse? You could make the same exact case, have far greater numbers on your side, and make all the same arguments.
But for some reason, you picked the one that specifically also happened to you. Almost like you have a lot of unsettled shit in your brain, and now are projecting it onto me because I proved your "you just don't understaaaaaand" cope wrong.
Good job trying the "I feel sorry for you" card when you run out of defenses though. I had thought autists were better at debate than this.
I never once said "there is no way" to your story. I even said it right there:
I just think your story has an almost minuscule chance of being true, and you only thinking it because of your own victim complex. Which is why you spent so much of your initial comment whining about yourself. You wanted to whine about how meanie people were to you as a kid, and constructed a perfect segue-way to tie it to an unrelated story.
Which is why I initially even said I doubt the expulsion part was true, as it wasn't reported anywhere else. Which would undermine your point even further.
Its only the one student who wasn't being named, btw. The stabbee (can't say victim, might trigger) is named right there. We have full statements from her mother and everything about her life and giving a lot of details about her. Which is one reason why I leaned into "hood stuff." Because Naima's hopes and dreams were stereotypical hood interests.
You can keep naming examples of "one time, in a random unrelated and completely different scenario someone LIED" but you've yet to do anything but that whataboutism and hope it would accomplish something. I've also seen Men lie about girlfriends being crazy, does that mean I should accept that everytime a man claims one is I believe he is the actual crazy one?
Exactly how else am I going to relate to you that public education is not well equipped to care for or protect kids with mental disabilities?
I also linked an article about an autistic girl that was bullied to death by students and teachers. The only thing is, I'm a grown man. All that happened to me was ancient history. I have no reason to lie about the system and no lawsuits pending. The point I'm making by sharing my own experience and also pointing to the experience of others is that it wasn't just me.
I can also go on to show you articles about autistic people being kept in cages and treated as if they're possessed by demons. You should see the shit Catholics, Mormons, scientologists and jehovah's witnesses do to us. Did you know the type of therapy banned from being used against gays, gay conversion therapy based on ABA, is also the leading gold star therapy recommended for autistic kids? Despite it increasing suicide rates?
You were acting as if the expulsion was proof of anything. I'm saying, the institution is corrupt and inept. Expulsion is just proof of expulsion and likely very little else.
You can't both understand American public education is garbage and unfair to many types of students... and then take the rejection seal of disapproval and treat it as likely valid. There are so many fucking ways to game the system and here you are thinking they actually did their due-diligence. What a damn laugh. Schools are FAMOUS for having terrible internal processes all across the country, and always taking the easy way out or the way out least likely to cause waves in the community.
But because we disagree, you're willing to look away.
Well considering that had nothing to do with the story until you tied it in, I don't see how it was necessary to relate it at all.
I basically raised my autistic brother. I got a degree in Counseling and Therapy back in the 2000s when Autism was such a common issue that almost every class had a section on dealing with them, from the "high functioning" who will make you hate them with how annoying they are to the barely functional psychos who are kept in cages because that's the most safe thing you can do for them. Because their brains are so unfettered they will use monkey strength on just slamming their heads into walls and beating anyone near them.
I get everything you are trying to say about it. I am simply saying its superfluous. Because it has nothing to do with anything. Its as valid as concocting a story about her dad raping her at home and how that creates impulsive violent behaviors as they lash out, and then linking stories about how society fails rape victims.
I didn't. I said it was literally the only info we have and then Occam's Razor'd to the most simple explanation based on the minimal factors we had.
You extrapolated from it that she had "anger issues" and that because she was still friends with kids in public school, it meant she was some pariah and then went into your piece about autism. You used it as proof first. You can't get mad now about it.
Nigga, I was literally removed from class due to "Acting out" and forced under the care of a feminist guidance counselor who demanded I call my mother and apologize for "lying about her" when I opened up about why I was acting out. And then put in a "growth group" when a bunch of kids on the line for expulsion due to actual violence.
I'm not looking away. I've looked at it long enough. You just need to construct this strawman of my position because I had the gall to disagree with you that "this might not be an autistic victim story."
It's just amazing to me how outlandish you find the suggestion, while at the same time, being a victim of these systems. You also pretty much have open disdain for many groups of people.
You're very troubled and nobody took care of you. I'm sorry you went through that and you've been left fucked up because of it.
Its outlandish because its based on nothing. Why didn't you assume she was a victim of rape or just raw physical child abuse? You could make the same exact case, have far greater numbers on your side, and make all the same arguments.
But for some reason, you picked the one that specifically also happened to you. Almost like you have a lot of unsettled shit in your brain, and now are projecting it onto me because I proved your "you just don't understaaaaaand" cope wrong.
Good job trying the "I feel sorry for you" card when you run out of defenses though. I had thought autists were better at debate than this.