I don't think this story is what it says on the tin, frankly.
The victim was expelled. Had "anger issues" and stuff like that. Yet still maintained contact with groups of public school children she had been going to school with previously.
I'm going to bet she had 1 real friend in that entire circle and didn't have the social wherewithal to know the rest just enjoyed having her around to make fun of. You wouldn't single out and attack someone over some fucking nuggy sauce unless you felt like you wouldn't be judged poorly by the friend group for it.
Sounds like an often victimized autistic child that the system didn't help because keeping the other little fuckers in line is harder than letting 1 autistic kid drop out. (Autistic kids have high dropout rates in general, even when they get good grades, for this very reason. Teachers would rather ignore or take part in bullying to get rid of one easy target than ask Tyrone and Patrick to behave themselves.)
Here's an example. Teachers really do join in on this shit. I am autistic myself and also got bullied out of school. The teachers regularly took part in my humiliation and found my "tattle telling"(asking them to do their job) was often taken as a bigger issue than the fact that you had physically abusive people leaving bruises on other people. Things like "Well since YOU keep getting injured, I'll put YOU at the front of the class. All by yourself. A row away from everyone else."
My records which I secured as an adult said I have "aggressive crying", that it was a means of trying to manipulate and bully others.
While there is probably a lot more going on than the story is portraying, I think you might be projecting your own bad experiences onto hers because of very generalized similarities.
Mostly because it was the suspect who was expelled, not the victim (and only this news clip has that info, so I only half believe it). And considering all we have on her is that she is an impulsive and violent person (based on her actions), she sounds closer to just a regular black teen than any autist I've ever met.
Mostly because it was the suspect who was expelled, not the victim
Depends how you see it. The "suspect" claims the stabbing was done out of self defense. They called Kyle Rittenhouse the suspect, did they not?
The link I shared in the linked comment is to show that it isn't just my bad experience. There are a LOT of fucking kids who share my experience. Who are going through it right now. It's a goddamn shame the only way they get seen as abused is if they off themselves in spectacular fashion. Normal kids don't shank people over nuggies. Normal kids don't get expelled. This wasn't a normal kid, this was a kid that fell through the cracks and never got help.
Its not really a "how you see it" problem. Suspect is the one getting charged, regardless of justification or their claims, while victim is the one who was "victimized," whether they are actually victims or the instigators. Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
The link I shared in the linked comment is to show that it isn't just my bad experience.
I wasn't saying it didn't happen. My brother was an autist who struggled his entire life through school, I got to see it happen and raise him mostly myself. I said you saw vague similarities to your own problem and jumped the gun building a narrative.
Normal kids don't shank people over nuggies. Normal kids don't get expelled
These weren't normal kids. These were Black Teens. I grew up adjacent to and intermixed with ghettos my entire life. This is completely normal behavior for that demographic. The only unique part of this story is the sauce, but its always something dumb like that. Normal kids wouldn't kill each other over slightly scuffing their shoes walking by on accident, but that's a problem so common to black teens/young adults its a cliche joke on their Comedy Skit shows.
Again, I think you are letting your own experience, which I'm not diminishing the struggle, build you a narrative for this kid that doesn't exist. The simplest answer is she was just a hoodrat and this is normal hoodrat behavior.
Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
Which is my point. I'm calling her the victim just like I called Rittenhouse a victim. When you feel compelled to use the same terminology and framing as the state, you're losing the battle to begin with. I didn't misspeak earlier, or mix up victim and offender. I said it how I meant it from my perspective which is that the one being prosecuted right now actually did act in self defense.
It's just as valid for me to say you're projecting your life experiences and assuming it's more hoodrattery.
I don't think this story is what it says on the tin, frankly.
The victim was expelled. Had "anger issues" and stuff like that. Yet still maintained contact with groups of public school children she had been going to school with previously.
I'm going to bet she had 1 real friend in that entire circle and didn't have the social wherewithal to know the rest just enjoyed having her around to make fun of. You wouldn't single out and attack someone over some fucking nuggy sauce unless you felt like you wouldn't be judged poorly by the friend group for it.
Sounds like an often victimized autistic child that the system didn't help because keeping the other little fuckers in line is harder than letting 1 autistic kid drop out. (Autistic kids have high dropout rates in general, even when they get good grades, for this very reason. Teachers would rather ignore or take part in bullying to get rid of one easy target than ask Tyrone and Patrick to behave themselves.)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10704911/amp/School-ignored-bullying-drove-autistic-black-girl-10-suicide-report-finds.html
Here's an example. Teachers really do join in on this shit. I am autistic myself and also got bullied out of school. The teachers regularly took part in my humiliation and found my "tattle telling"(asking them to do their job) was often taken as a bigger issue than the fact that you had physically abusive people leaving bruises on other people. Things like "Well since YOU keep getting injured, I'll put YOU at the front of the class. All by yourself. A row away from everyone else."
My records which I secured as an adult said I have "aggressive crying", that it was a means of trying to manipulate and bully others.
While there is probably a lot more going on than the story is portraying, I think you might be projecting your own bad experiences onto hers because of very generalized similarities.
Mostly because it was the suspect who was expelled, not the victim (and only this news clip has that info, so I only half believe it). And considering all we have on her is that she is an impulsive and violent person (based on her actions), she sounds closer to just a regular black teen than any autist I've ever met.
Depends how you see it. The "suspect" claims the stabbing was done out of self defense. They called Kyle Rittenhouse the suspect, did they not?
The link I shared in the linked comment is to show that it isn't just my bad experience. There are a LOT of fucking kids who share my experience. Who are going through it right now. It's a goddamn shame the only way they get seen as abused is if they off themselves in spectacular fashion. Normal kids don't shank people over nuggies. Normal kids don't get expelled. This wasn't a normal kid, this was a kid that fell through the cracks and never got help.
Its not really a "how you see it" problem. Suspect is the one getting charged, regardless of justification or their claims, while victim is the one who was "victimized," whether they are actually victims or the instigators. Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
I wasn't saying it didn't happen. My brother was an autist who struggled his entire life through school, I got to see it happen and raise him mostly myself. I said you saw vague similarities to your own problem and jumped the gun building a narrative.
These weren't normal kids. These were Black Teens. I grew up adjacent to and intermixed with ghettos my entire life. This is completely normal behavior for that demographic. The only unique part of this story is the sauce, but its always something dumb like that. Normal kids wouldn't kill each other over slightly scuffing their shoes walking by on accident, but that's a problem so common to black teens/young adults its a cliche joke on their Comedy Skit shows.
Again, I think you are letting your own experience, which I'm not diminishing the struggle, build you a narrative for this kid that doesn't exist. The simplest answer is she was just a hoodrat and this is normal hoodrat behavior.
Which is my point. I'm calling her the victim just like I called Rittenhouse a victim. When you feel compelled to use the same terminology and framing as the state, you're losing the battle to begin with. I didn't misspeak earlier, or mix up victim and offender. I said it how I meant it from my perspective which is that the one being prosecuted right now actually did act in self defense.
It's just as valid for me to say you're projecting your life experiences and assuming it's more hoodrattery.