Its not really a "how you see it" problem. Suspect is the one getting charged, regardless of justification or their claims, while victim is the one who was "victimized," whether they are actually victims or the instigators. Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
The link I shared in the linked comment is to show that it isn't just my bad experience.
I wasn't saying it didn't happen. My brother was an autist who struggled his entire life through school, I got to see it happen and raise him mostly myself. I said you saw vague similarities to your own problem and jumped the gun building a narrative.
Normal kids don't shank people over nuggies. Normal kids don't get expelled
These weren't normal kids. These were Black Teens. I grew up adjacent to and intermixed with ghettos my entire life. This is completely normal behavior for that demographic. The only unique part of this story is the sauce, but its always something dumb like that. Normal kids wouldn't kill each other over slightly scuffing their shoes walking by on accident, but that's a problem so common to black teens/young adults its a cliche joke on their Comedy Skit shows.
Again, I think you are letting your own experience, which I'm not diminishing the struggle, build you a narrative for this kid that doesn't exist. The simplest answer is she was just a hoodrat and this is normal hoodrat behavior.
Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
Which is my point. I'm calling her the victim just like I called Rittenhouse a victim. When you feel compelled to use the same terminology and framing as the state, you're losing the battle to begin with. I didn't misspeak earlier, or mix up victim and offender. I said it how I meant it from my perspective which is that the one being prosecuted right now actually did act in self defense.
It's just as valid for me to say you're projecting your life experiences and assuming it's more hoodrattery.
If your response to people you are choosing to interact with being mean to you is to murder them, you have ceased to have victimhood. If autists aren't able to handle that basic fact, as you keep trying to push, then they aren't fit for civilized society and I will lump them just as I do the niggers who also act in such a manner. Which is full removal, not kindness and empathy.
I don't believe that is the case, however. Its also entirely possible she acted in self defense, as we have straight up no details other than she was expelled. I am simply rejecting your conjuration that she was some bullied autist finally snapping back against a system that beat her down.
And I will continue to use words as they mean, instead of replacing them with what i feel is more appropriate based on my emotional states and conjured up narratives. You can dislike that as you wish, but that says more about you than me.
If your response to people you are choosing to interact with being mean to you is to murder them, you have ceased to have victimhood.
Seems like a strawman to say this was just "being mean", if she was going to stab or shoot someone just for being mean... it would've happened before being expelled or dropping out.
The claim is self defense. If she was in the middle of a beat down circle, I don't blame her for pulling a knife and using it. That's textbook self defense. ESPECIALLY if it was a textbook "nigger"-style gang beatdown, as you specifically might call it.
if she was going to stab or shoot someone just for being mean... it would've happened before being expelled or dropping out.
Or maybe she was in the process of doing so and that is the reason why she got expelled in the first place. They usually don't expel you for anything except threats of violence.
Your entire constructed idea of her is a strawman, as we have zero actual information beyond "was expelled" and the vague details of the crime itself about her. Its not impossible for it to be a self defense attack, but I'd say if it was it was just a straight up reversal of "got attacked, defended self better" rather than some dramatic autistic sob story.
Its not really a "how you see it" problem. Suspect is the one getting charged, regardless of justification or their claims, while victim is the one who was "victimized," whether they are actually victims or the instigators. Rittenhouse was the suspect, because he was the one being prosecuted even if he had fully valid self defense claims.
I wasn't saying it didn't happen. My brother was an autist who struggled his entire life through school, I got to see it happen and raise him mostly myself. I said you saw vague similarities to your own problem and jumped the gun building a narrative.
These weren't normal kids. These were Black Teens. I grew up adjacent to and intermixed with ghettos my entire life. This is completely normal behavior for that demographic. The only unique part of this story is the sauce, but its always something dumb like that. Normal kids wouldn't kill each other over slightly scuffing their shoes walking by on accident, but that's a problem so common to black teens/young adults its a cliche joke on their Comedy Skit shows.
Again, I think you are letting your own experience, which I'm not diminishing the struggle, build you a narrative for this kid that doesn't exist. The simplest answer is she was just a hoodrat and this is normal hoodrat behavior.
Which is my point. I'm calling her the victim just like I called Rittenhouse a victim. When you feel compelled to use the same terminology and framing as the state, you're losing the battle to begin with. I didn't misspeak earlier, or mix up victim and offender. I said it how I meant it from my perspective which is that the one being prosecuted right now actually did act in self defense.
It's just as valid for me to say you're projecting your life experiences and assuming it's more hoodrattery.
If your response to people you are choosing to interact with being mean to you is to murder them, you have ceased to have victimhood. If autists aren't able to handle that basic fact, as you keep trying to push, then they aren't fit for civilized society and I will lump them just as I do the niggers who also act in such a manner. Which is full removal, not kindness and empathy.
I don't believe that is the case, however. Its also entirely possible she acted in self defense, as we have straight up no details other than she was expelled. I am simply rejecting your conjuration that she was some bullied autist finally snapping back against a system that beat her down.
And I will continue to use words as they mean, instead of replacing them with what i feel is more appropriate based on my emotional states and conjured up narratives. You can dislike that as you wish, but that says more about you than me.
Seems like a strawman to say this was just "being mean", if she was going to stab or shoot someone just for being mean... it would've happened before being expelled or dropping out.
The claim is self defense. If she was in the middle of a beat down circle, I don't blame her for pulling a knife and using it. That's textbook self defense. ESPECIALLY if it was a textbook "nigger"-style gang beatdown, as you specifically might call it.
Or maybe she was in the process of doing so and that is the reason why she got expelled in the first place. They usually don't expel you for anything except threats of violence.
Your entire constructed idea of her is a strawman, as we have zero actual information beyond "was expelled" and the vague details of the crime itself about her. Its not impossible for it to be a self defense attack, but I'd say if it was it was just a straight up reversal of "got attacked, defended self better" rather than some dramatic autistic sob story.