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Toronto wants to ban two-stroke engine small equipment (lawnmowers, leaf blowers, chainsaws) but the City will let you rent electric equipment via a lending library. (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by YesMovement 1 year ago by YesMovement +43 / -0
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– KeeperOfTheGate -7 points 1 year ago +2 / -9

With solar panels you can produce your own energy.

Can you pump and refine your own oil?

Electrical tools make you LESS reliant on others.

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– FutaCumDiet 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

With solar panels you can produce your own energy.

Until it hits its end of life or becomes damage, in which case you'll likely just end up throwing it out since you can't repair it yourself or they'll charge you an arm and a leg to "fix it". By which I mean give you a new one because they'll likely just throw it into a landfill.

Electrical tools make you LESS reliant on others.

Oh, so you can make your own solar panel? Or are you relying on companies that are heavily subsidized by the government? You know, the same ones making them in foreign country using what is arguable slave labor while they dump corrosive chemicals into their water ways?

Electrical tools make you LESS reliant on others.

You're just retarded if you think this. Compare how easily you can repair something combustion powered to something electrically powered. My mother bought a lawn mower in 2014 and still works as well as the day she bought it thanks to general, user-end maintenance. Do you think a fucking battery powered mower is going to come anywhere close to 10 years? Go fuck yourself.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Until it hits its end of life or becomes damage, in which case you'll likely just end up throwing it out since you can't repair it yourself or they'll charge you an arm and a leg to "fix it". By which I mean give you a new one because they'll likely just throw it into a landfill.

Who cares? Most trash goes in landfills anyway. My solar panels on my house covered ~91% of my electrical usage in 2022. I'm at greater than 100% coverage so far in 2023, but dropping fast due to increased AC usage. My panels are 5 years old and have lost a few percentage points of efficiency at worst.

If we are in an extended power out situation, I can disconnect from the grid and keep going. I have a tiny battery buffer now, and if I lived in an area that experienced longer outages I would upgrade that (but I don't).

If supply chains are fucked, your gas is running out long before my solar.

Oh, so you can make your own solar panel? Or are you relying on companies that are heavily subsidized by the government? You know, the same ones making them in foreign country using what is arguable slave labor while they dump corrosive chemicals into their water ways?

My silfab panels are manufactured in the US, thank you.

You're just retarded if you think this. Compare how easily you can repair something combustion powered to something electrically powered. My mother bought a lawn mower in 2014 and still works as well as the day she bought it thanks to general, user-end maintenance. Do you think a fucking battery powered mower is going to come anywhere close to 10 years? Go fuck yourself.

My string trimmer is 15 years old, on the original battery. Runs great. I've replaced the string countless times, no other maintenance.

My mower is now three years old, still cuts great, charge is still great. Another nice thing is that if it detects thick grass, it can automatically spin up faster. Beyond the electric, it's a Toro Super Recycler. It's a great mower (and I had a Honda before). I've sharpened the blade once, no oil changes, no gas changes, no draining for winter, no air filter replacement, no spark plugs, no nothing. Best mower I've ever had.

Do you think a fucking battery powered mower is going to come anywhere close to 10 years? Go fuck yourself.

Yes, I do. Love you.

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– when_we_win_remember 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Electric stuff is great, and it's very hard to refine your own oil. You can, however, distill alcohol relatively easily, and a lot of stuff will run on that.

As far as independence, the problem is not with electric equipment as much as the fact that a) batteries die and are hard to make and b) electric stuff tends toward cheap Chinese crap that is difficult to repair. They do make really reliable and long lasting electric tools. Just not the lawn mower most people pick up from wal*mart.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I completely agree. Toro mower, Dewalt trimmer, etc. If you get good quality, it will last.

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– Knife-TotingRat 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes, teh future of electric oughtn't be big-ass solar arrays eating away at more wilderness, it should be more distributed, with each building having its own solar/wind generators while still being hooked to The Grid and using existing power sources while also feeding excess power back into it. If they were really serious about everything going electric, they'd concentrate on getting every house and apartment building with its own little array. Hell, if I had the money to build a house, I'd sure as hell have it rigged with enough power from the get-go, plus some.

Gah, I remember when they were promising every house to have its own little nuclear generator about the size of an AC unit! Free power! Then Three Mile Island happened.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Gah, I remember when they were promising every house to have its own little nuclear generator about the size of an AC unit! Free power! Then Three Mile Island happened.

Yeah, I remember a similiar article when I was kid talking about how homes of the future would all have fuel cells to make them energy independent, etc.

We're close with home batteries and home solar, for many parts of the country.

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– deleted 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0
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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Gotcha. Yes, that is horseshit.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Where's the lithium come from?

As one of the few people on this forum that actually acknowledges anthropogenic climate change... think.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I acknowledge, but don't much care, about climate change. I find other environmental cleanup issues more urgent and more immediately solveable. I support opening up additional areas in the US to mining.

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