That's the entire focus of the treaty, front hole. UXO of any variety is unavoidable in warfare of any decent scale, regardless of ammunition type used. The United States to no small degree did not sign onto the treaty because it was feel-good nonsense that did functionally nothing to actually address civilian casualties.
It's yet another virtue signaling pretense, acting like you give a damn while contributing nothing.
Furthermore, if the Ukrainians don't value their lives enough to not use human wave tactics, why on earth should I?
That's the entire focus of the treaty, front hole. UXO of any variety is unavoidable in warfare of any decent scale, regardless of ammunition type used
It's worse with some types of ammunition, bonus hole. When 10% of shells don't explode, that is far worse than with a smaller percentage. That is what makes the effect on civilians disproportionate to the military benefit, and which arguably makes it illegal even in the absence of a specific treaty.
The United States to no small degree did not sign onto the treaty because it was feel-good nonsense that did functionally nothing to actually address civilian casualties.
And just like that, you believe in the good will and sanity of the United States government, and that it 'cares' about civilian casualties, even though it has given you no reason at all to believe that.
Furthermore, if the Ukrainians don't value their lives enough to not use human wave tactics, why on earth should I?
So many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin. It's like me saying that I should send Americans to their deaths, because obviously "Americans don't value their lives enough to put an end to the fentanyl epidemic which kills hundreds of thousands".
Unless you're now suddenly a fan of the US government, it should be clear that governments of countries are not the same as their population.
Also that military deaths != killing kids and making large parts of entire countries uninhabitable like the US did to Indochina.
No it's really not worse with some types of ammunition, retard. The amount of artillery being used here guarantees a UXO situation across the front. Once UXO is determined the actual munitions are totally irrelevant. I know this for a personal fact. The only way to avoid this is avoiding the conflict in the first place.
Enormous sections of the Ukraine are already uninhabitable, will be for decades. All from completely conventional shells. Because that's how it works in real life and not on CNN.
Stop trying to pretend like you have the slightest clue about military stuff. You're an ignorant fool.
No it's really not worse with some types of ammunition, retard. The amount of artillery being used here guarantees a UXO situation across the front.
Of course it's worse with some types of munition, you absolute moron. If 20% of shells from cluster munitions don't explode, then that's way worse than: "UHHHH THERE ARE ALREADY SOME DUDS THERE".
The only way to avoid this is avoiding the conflict in the first place.
Sounds like a good idea tbh, but you don't seem to be able to distinguish between 'bad' and 'worse'.
Stop trying to pretend like you have the slightest clue about military stuff. You're an ignorant fool.
I mean, let's not start about who here is an 'ignorant fool', because I don't think you'll come out of that looking well.
That's the entire focus of the treaty, front hole. UXO of any variety is unavoidable in warfare of any decent scale, regardless of ammunition type used. The United States to no small degree did not sign onto the treaty because it was feel-good nonsense that did functionally nothing to actually address civilian casualties.
It's yet another virtue signaling pretense, acting like you give a damn while contributing nothing.
Furthermore, if the Ukrainians don't value their lives enough to not use human wave tactics, why on earth should I?
It's worse with some types of ammunition, bonus hole. When 10% of shells don't explode, that is far worse than with a smaller percentage. That is what makes the effect on civilians disproportionate to the military benefit, and which arguably makes it illegal even in the absence of a specific treaty.
And just like that, you believe in the good will and sanity of the United States government, and that it 'cares' about civilian casualties, even though it has given you no reason at all to believe that.
So many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin. It's like me saying that I should send Americans to their deaths, because obviously "Americans don't value their lives enough to put an end to the fentanyl epidemic which kills hundreds of thousands".
Unless you're now suddenly a fan of the US government, it should be clear that governments of countries are not the same as their population.
Also that military deaths != killing kids and making large parts of entire countries uninhabitable like the US did to Indochina.
No it's really not worse with some types of ammunition, retard. The amount of artillery being used here guarantees a UXO situation across the front. Once UXO is determined the actual munitions are totally irrelevant. I know this for a personal fact. The only way to avoid this is avoiding the conflict in the first place.
Enormous sections of the Ukraine are already uninhabitable, will be for decades. All from completely conventional shells. Because that's how it works in real life and not on CNN.
Stop trying to pretend like you have the slightest clue about military stuff. You're an ignorant fool.
Of course it's worse with some types of munition, you absolute moron. If 20% of shells from cluster munitions don't explode, then that's way worse than: "UHHHH THERE ARE ALREADY SOME DUDS THERE".
Sounds like a good idea tbh, but you don't seem to be able to distinguish between 'bad' and 'worse'.
I mean, let's not start about who here is an 'ignorant fool', because I don't think you'll come out of that looking well.
Also, bear in mind that cluster munitions are of necessity small enough for a kid to pick up and play with.
Some five-year-old who doesn't know better isn't doing that with a dud 155 that's buried itself into the mud, is he?