You don't need the fines. If someone commits a major crime and isn't executed, that's part of the problem with our justice system.
This is kinda the problem, almost none of this would be an issue if there weren't people actively trying to shove every possible warm body into the country as it is. I don't have a problem waging a war against people smugglers, slave traders, and human traffickers, that's all good. Most of the worthless illegals are just low level criminals and losers looking for an easy score. They don't even need much incentive to leave. A wall fixes that.
Our true problem is the judiciary, legislature, elites, businesses, and bureaucracy that wants a country of 1,000 people per square mile in every square mile of the country to keep a vast underclass of low wage workers available for groundskeeping, fruit picking, and toilet brushing. There's less threat from the avocado pickers, than the idiots demanding the avocados be "green sourced" by not using machines.
I politely disagree on the matter of fining their home country. The idea is to make emigration a risky affair for their home country to the point it becomes impossible to leave, so they overthrow their own shitholes and perhaps start making it a better place than have them look elsewhere for gibsmigration.
Secondly, while it's true what you said about the judiciary, legislature, elites, business and bureaucracy, those 'underclass of low wage workers' have their own agenda in mind - that they turn any of their enclaves into a carbon copy of what they fled. As far as I'm concerned, they're a threat alongside the idiots demanding 'green sourced' avocados because they take taxpayer money that shouldn't be handed to them in the first place.
I have a much longer argument about how the countries of orgin are actually intentionally displacing their own populations to preserve their welfare states, and protect the corrupt governments. It tends to be that our goverments use this as a way of supporting them with influence peddling, but we need to burn those relationships and take aggressive action against the countries of origin for allowing it. Up to and including military strikes.
Albania isn't sending people to the UK because Albanians are yearning for freedom. They are sending criminals to expand the corrupt criminal racket of the Albanian government's organized crime. It's worth blowing up an Albanian dock to stop Albania from sending criminals on purpose. What they are doing is an act of war, and should be treated as such.
On the other hand, Moroccans are being harvested. They wouldn't even come if we didn't do literally everything in our power to drag them across the ocean. All we have to do is just arrest the NGO human traffickers, and stop having the navy bring people across.
You don't need the fines. If someone commits a major crime and isn't executed, that's part of the problem with our justice system.
This is kinda the problem, almost none of this would be an issue if there weren't people actively trying to shove every possible warm body into the country as it is. I don't have a problem waging a war against people smugglers, slave traders, and human traffickers, that's all good. Most of the worthless illegals are just low level criminals and losers looking for an easy score. They don't even need much incentive to leave. A wall fixes that.
Our true problem is the judiciary, legislature, elites, businesses, and bureaucracy that wants a country of 1,000 people per square mile in every square mile of the country to keep a vast underclass of low wage workers available for groundskeeping, fruit picking, and toilet brushing. There's less threat from the avocado pickers, than the idiots demanding the avocados be "green sourced" by not using machines.
I politely disagree on the matter of fining their home country. The idea is to make emigration a risky affair for their home country to the point it becomes impossible to leave, so they overthrow their own shitholes and perhaps start making it a better place than have them look elsewhere for gibsmigration.
Secondly, while it's true what you said about the judiciary, legislature, elites, business and bureaucracy, those 'underclass of low wage workers' have their own agenda in mind - that they turn any of their enclaves into a carbon copy of what they fled. As far as I'm concerned, they're a threat alongside the idiots demanding 'green sourced' avocados because they take taxpayer money that shouldn't be handed to them in the first place.
I have a much longer argument about how the countries of orgin are actually intentionally displacing their own populations to preserve their welfare states, and protect the corrupt governments. It tends to be that our goverments use this as a way of supporting them with influence peddling, but we need to burn those relationships and take aggressive action against the countries of origin for allowing it. Up to and including military strikes.
Albania isn't sending people to the UK because Albanians are yearning for freedom. They are sending criminals to expand the corrupt criminal racket of the Albanian government's organized crime. It's worth blowing up an Albanian dock to stop Albania from sending criminals on purpose. What they are doing is an act of war, and should be treated as such.
On the other hand, Moroccans are being harvested. They wouldn't even come if we didn't do literally everything in our power to drag them across the ocean. All we have to do is just arrest the NGO human traffickers, and stop having the navy bring people across.