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Republican primary voters most popular issues: This is the way (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by dekachin 2 years ago by dekachin +56 / -0
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– dekachin [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

No it means giving more than the $113 billion already authorized.

The US is in fiscal crisis & Russia is not a serious threat to Ukraine anymore. US taxpayers don't want to dump billions upon billion more into Ukraine just so it can retake Crimea or whatever.

The Euros can take it from here.

We have much bigger priorities here in America & in dealing with China.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

No it means giving more than the $113 billion already authorized.

That would be a drastic step. I would be very surprised if they read it like that.

US taxpayers don't want to dump billions upon billion more into Ukraine just so it can retake Crimea or whatever.

What US taxpayers want is not really relevant though. The whims of the ruling class does. You think Russian or Ukrainian taxpayers wanted war? No, but they got war, because their ruling classes did.

The Euros can take it from here.

No, we're not.

We have much bigger priorities here in America & in dealing with China.

Dragging us into that war as well!?

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– dekachin [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That would be a drastic step. I would be very surprised if they read it like that.

It is. My grandparents are Berniebros & they strongly oppose money for Ukraine. I do as well even though I am "far right". $113b was too much, already. The US DIB is in shambles & we are behind the curve on China.

Nobody except the Democrat neocons in the media & think tank classes still want to keep throwing money at Ukraine.

What US taxpayers want is not really relevant though. The whims of the ruling class does.

You're wrong because the Right is increasingly populist. Sure, the Democrats are totally captured by their elites, but not true at all with Republicans anymore.

Democrats, while captured by their elites, are slaves to polling as well, & they won't fight the Republicans on an issue where the polling is against them.

Dragging us into that war as well!?

The selfish Euros won't help with China, which is why the US shouldn't continue to help with Ukraine.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It is. My grandparents are Berniebros & they strongly oppose money for Ukraine. I do as well even though I am "far right". $113b was too much, already. The US DIB is in shambles & we are behind the curve on China.

I've also only heard complaints about funding to Ukraine, but if polls are to be believed, people in my country are utter retards on the issue. I don't know man, maybe people are just stupid.

Nobody except the Democrat neocons in the media & think tank classes still want to keep throwing money at Ukraine.

And the Republican neocons, who sometimes bash Biden for not doing enough. Unfortunately, they are the people with the power.

You're wrong because the Right is increasingly populist. Sure, the Democrats are totally captured by their elites, but not true at all with Republicans anymore.

I try to be hopeful, but I'm congenitally pessimistic. I think it's just a show, plus some crumbs. The elites have total control over what happens. Sometimes they throw us a bone and then we think the fake steering wheel that they give us and they call 'elections' matter. Of course they don't! You think people in Europe want their farming sector destroyed?

Democrats, while captured by their elites, are slaves to polling as well, & they won't fight the Republicans on an issue where the polling is against them.

On the grooming issue, polling is against them, and they don't care. Because what people think does not seem to matter at all.

The selfish Euros won't help with China, which is why the US shouldn't continue to help with Ukraine.

You mean that if we are "selfish" and don't help you fight a war that has nothing to do with us, you'll stop sponsoring proxy wars in our backyard? Oh nooooo!

BTW, while I do a lot of bravado in saying that "WE WILL NOT FIGHT YOUR WARS", of course I fully realize that the Euros are your slaves and that they will do whatever the USG commands them to do. Maybe it will not command us to fight, because our pitiful armies will be more of a hindrance than a help, but if it did, rest assured that they would conscript their subjects and send them to die as cannon fodder.

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– dekachin [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I've also only heard complaints about funding to Ukraine, but if polls are to be believed, people in my country are utter retards on the issue. I don't know man, maybe people are just stupid.

Some polls are manipulated. Neocons use manipulated polls to exaggerate support for Ukraine in order to use them as talking points to lobby politicians.

And the Republican neocons, who sometimes bash Biden for not doing enough. Unfortunately, they are the people with the power.

Republicans are not neocons. They can be hawks, like Lindsay Graham, but a neocon is a liberal hawk. Conservative hawks are different & have a different vision for how US power ought to be used.

Gay pride bombs = a necon thing that Republican hawks would reject, for example.

I try to be hopeful, but I'm congenitally pessimistic. I think it's just a show, plus some crumbs. The elites have total control over what happens. Sometimes they throw us a bone and then we think the fake steering wheel that they give us and they call 'elections' matter. Of course they don't! You think people in Europe want their farming sector destroyed?

The elites are losing & their power is eroding. JFK Jr is a vehicle for left wing protest against the elites. Both Trump & DeSantis are against the elites in different ways, with DeSantis being far more dangerous to them.

On the grooming issue, polling is against them, and they don't care. Because what people think does not seem to matter at all.

Democrats are arrogant right now because they massively outperformed in 2022. If they get crushed in a red wave in 2024, which they will if its DeSantis, then you'll see them change in a big way.

They'll throw the trannies under the bus so fast your head will spin.

You mean that if we are "selfish" and don't help you fight a war that has nothing to do with us

Of course it does. If China takes over Asia it will fuck over Euro trade just as much as it fucks over US trade. It will totally dictate the terms of trade to both the EU & US in a manner where the trade only benefits China at both of our expense.

BTW, while I do a lot of bravado in saying that "WE WILL NOT FIGHT YOUR WARS", of course I fully realize that the Euros are your slaves and that they will do whatever the USG commands them to do.

I wish that were true, but it isn't, which is why the US needs to pull out of Europe in a big way. We have 100k troops there. We should cut that to 20k & close most bases. Basically just leave a skeleton crew to train with NATO & handle logistics. We need all those troops over in Japan & the Philippines.

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