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Lefty not realizing the comic says trans are violent criminals (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +38 / -0
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– Gizortnik 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

I disagree. It shows they ae retarded.

  • Male or Female is not a Yes answer. No one can be both. Sexual Reproduction exists.
  • Cats is not an appropriate answer to whether or not you are male or female. The fact you you like cats is irrelevant
  • Having a gun is also irrelevant to the original question.
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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Male or Female is not a Yes answer. No one can be both. Sexual Reproduction exists.

It's also a pseud meme to begin with. It's conflating the logical "or" with the semantic "or", but they're not the same. It's not a logical operation, it's a request for more information. But le very smart redditor types think that because they took Intro to Visual Basic then they're cool programmers and can make jokes that only fellow hackers would get.

Plus, even if it was a logical or, answering "yes" doesn't fucking mean both are true.

As an actual programmer, I hate that trope like you wouldn't believe.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I do programming too. What do you mean by "logical" or, and "semantic" or. That's all the same operation to me.

"Yes" isn't a valid answer to any "or" question, even if you intend it to mean both parts of the disjunction are true. It's just a poorly worded, reductive, colloquialism to say that you're picking all of the above; but it's grammatically incorrect.

because they took Intro to Visual Basic then they're cool programmers and can make jokes that only fellow hackers would get.

Speaking of which...

Fuck it. Next time I'm asking: "Are you a male Xor female?"

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The logical "or" you're familiar with. But in speech, "or" isn't used that way. The closest programming analogy to how it's used in speech would be a return statement. In this case, "return gender". Because we're not asking for a yes or no answer, we're asking for more information.

I guess a better way to put it would have been conditional or. People use that in real life too. "If we're out of eggs or they're on sale, buy eggs". That would return "true", but which condition is satisfied is irrelevant.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it took me a while, (and a separate comment) but I see what you're saying.

You're talking about the "logical" OR as an inclusive disjunction where each element can be true, such that the statement is true if one is true. "Yes, I am a Man or Woman", which could be logically accepted to be "I am Man not Woman", "I am Woman not Man", and "I am Man and I am Woman"; which doesn't make sense because the statement is already and implicitly an exclusive disjunction where a "Yes" is impossible because it must be one or the other.

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– SpezTouchesChildren 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

In this case, "return gender". Because we're not asking for a yes or no answer, we're asking for more information.

I get the point you're making, but be careful with it. You don't want to give the pedophiles more fodder for their gender nonsense. It's still binary. That's why programmers use Boolean variables such as isFemale when they create objects that sex is relevant to.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Cyberguy64 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The first one is using the Mathematician's Yes. Technically, you can answer yes to "Are you a boy or a girl?" and be correct. Of course, doing so is admitting that you fall under the binary one way or the other, so they really just played themselves.

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– SpezTouchesChildren 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The "or" we use in English often translates into XOR in math/logic. So "boy or girl" becomes "boy XOR girl", which is just a tautology since it's always going to be one or the other but never both.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You can answer "yes" to it only if you are already working within Gender Theory, which is an issue all by itself.

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– Cyberguy64 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

What? There are only two options, and answering yes is just saying "Yes, I am Male or Female."

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"Yes" is only possible under Gender Theory, as in to refer to both. The question presumes an exclusive distinction. You are either male or female. Saying "yes" dismisses the presumption in the first place.

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– BetterNameUnfound 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I know this is a fringe-minority exception, but...

I personally know someone with XX male syndrome. He's one of my best friends.

People with genetic disorders like this deserve our actual sympathy. It's not their fault.

That being said, yes, in over 99.99% of cases, it IS that cut-and-dry.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

But that means they are still male (or at most intersex)

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– ACertainFellow 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IDK. I think in 'legitimate' cases like this where the common biological markers that we associate with one sex or another are messed up, we should be willing to have the conversation and possibly give ground there.

From what I understand, people in that situation (intersex etc.) have very little in common with the trans of today--they were actually forced into their situation. They were given no choice, they didn't ask to be in that situation.

In cases like those, I actually feel a lot of empathy for them. I look at that, and I can't help but think how utterly awful it would be to live like that.

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– FutaCumDiet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Having a gun is also irrelevant to the original question.

You think that, but find me a straight man who actually wants a SUB2000.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

HEY! I'M PROBABLY STRAIGHT!

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