The main difference I notice is that the music was actually pretty damn good. Now it barely qualifies as music.
We went from Louis Armstrong and Lionel Hampton and James Brown and Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder to ... at best, some pop singer with a decent voice and a lot of autotune, but mostly garbage rap with repetitive "sprinkler" beats that isn't even interesting rhythmically.
Hell, even early hip hop wasn't completely terrible.
Note: modern mainstream white musicians aren't much better.
Is any music produced today, or any building built today, or book written, something that will still be loved in 200 years, like Mozart's 40th Symphony, St. Paul's or Ivanhoe?
It seems that modernity is incapable of producing anything good. And obviously, I know that only the good stuff from 200 years ago survived, but somehow, I don't see the Sydney Opera House being loved 200 years from now, or anything really.
It’s imperfect, certainly, but I can assure you, going to a concert in there, listening to the organ and choir in the big cavernous space, and then, at interval, walking up to view the most iconic view in the entire city..? Yeah, it’s not bad.
Should it have been built? Probably not. Is it a bit dated inside? Arguably. But it’s probably one of the best things this country has produced since the 60s, tbh…
Better than the fucking Melbourne Recital Centre and the Adelaide Festival Hall, anyway, lol… Those, certainly, won’t be remembered…
I think some jazz is going to be loved for a long time, mostly from around 1955-1965, give or take a few years. Some interesting stuff came out of that time and there is a lot of classical and baroque influence on it. A few Disney themes were turned in to jazz standards around then, too. "Someday My Prince Will Come" and "Alice in Wonderland" for example. I think those movies will be loved and remembered and possibly carry the music with them.
The Sydney Opera House will have rotted away in less than 100 due to it being built with modern cement and rebar. It will basically have to be rebuilt several times over just to exist.
Hell, even early hip hop wasn't completely terrible.
I recently discovered electro hip-hop (i.e., the original hip hop) from the 80s and was amazed at the fact that virtually none of the lyrics were about being a G, dry-byes, having lots of money and bitches, or the rest of the degenerate shit that came in in the early 90s. The last 3 songs from this genre I listened to, the lyrics' themes were about: 1. appreciating the fact that you're alive 2. the malign influence of TV 3. anhedonia after loss of love.
The main difference I notice is that the music was actually pretty damn good.
No, the stuff that people remember is pretty good. Several decades of filtering out the wheat from the chaff had resulted in a 'survival of the fittest'. There's plenty of good music and complaining that there isn't just exposes yourself as a lazy, sloven fuck that refuses to actually go looking for it.
A restaurant I go to regularly plays repeats of top-40 countdowns from the '80s.
It is pretty much universally good stuff.
Top-40 countdowns from today are exactly what I described. Boring, overproduced autotune garbage and shitty rap and hip hop.
But go on, throw some more personal insults like a 5 year old because someone didn't feel it was necessary to say "but there's good stuff out there if you dig for it" because everybody fucking knows that.
Yeah, the stuff that is remembered is good. But if you think everything from the decade was worth listening to, I suggest checking out the vinyl section from your nearest Goodwill.
Top-40 countdowns from today are exactly what I described. Boring, overproduced autotune garbage and shitty rap and hip hop.
And several decades from now, people are going to filter out all the crap just like they filtered out Barbra Streisand and "We Are The World" from the collective consious of the 1980's.
But go on, throw some more personal insults like a 5 year old because someone didn't feel it was necessary to say "but there's good stuff out there if you dig for it" because everybody fucking knows that.
The main difference I notice is that the music was actually pretty damn good. Now it barely qualifies as music.
We went from Louis Armstrong and Lionel Hampton and James Brown and Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder to ... at best, some pop singer with a decent voice and a lot of autotune, but mostly garbage rap with repetitive "sprinkler" beats that isn't even interesting rhythmically.
Hell, even early hip hop wasn't completely terrible.
Note: modern mainstream white musicians aren't much better.
Is any music produced today, or any building built today, or book written, something that will still be loved in 200 years, like Mozart's 40th Symphony, St. Paul's or Ivanhoe?
It seems that modernity is incapable of producing anything good. And obviously, I know that only the good stuff from 200 years ago survived, but somehow, I don't see the Sydney Opera House being loved 200 years from now, or anything really.
Disagree about the Opera House…
It’s imperfect, certainly, but I can assure you, going to a concert in there, listening to the organ and choir in the big cavernous space, and then, at interval, walking up to view the most iconic view in the entire city..? Yeah, it’s not bad.
Should it have been built? Probably not. Is it a bit dated inside? Arguably. But it’s probably one of the best things this country has produced since the 60s, tbh…
Better than the fucking Melbourne Recital Centre and the Adelaide Festival Hall, anyway, lol… Those, certainly, won’t be remembered…
Today today, or in modern times?
I think some jazz is going to be loved for a long time, mostly from around 1955-1965, give or take a few years. Some interesting stuff came out of that time and there is a lot of classical and baroque influence on it. A few Disney themes were turned in to jazz standards around then, too. "Someday My Prince Will Come" and "Alice in Wonderland" for example. I think those movies will be loved and remembered and possibly carry the music with them.
As far as architecture, fuck no.
The Sydney Opera House will have rotted away in less than 100 due to it being built with modern cement and rebar. It will basically have to be rebuilt several times over just to exist.
The Fat Boys will never die!
I recently discovered electro hip-hop (i.e., the original hip hop) from the 80s and was amazed at the fact that virtually none of the lyrics were about being a G, dry-byes, having lots of money and bitches, or the rest of the degenerate shit that came in in the early 90s. The last 3 songs from this genre I listened to, the lyrics' themes were about: 1. appreciating the fact that you're alive 2. the malign influence of TV 3. anhedonia after loss of love.
If anyone is curious, the songs are:
No, the stuff that people remember is pretty good. Several decades of filtering out the wheat from the chaff had resulted in a 'survival of the fittest'. There's plenty of good music and complaining that there isn't just exposes yourself as a lazy, sloven fuck that refuses to actually go looking for it.
Actually, no.
A restaurant I go to regularly plays repeats of top-40 countdowns from the '80s.
It is pretty much universally good stuff.
Top-40 countdowns from today are exactly what I described. Boring, overproduced autotune garbage and shitty rap and hip hop.
But go on, throw some more personal insults like a 5 year old because someone didn't feel it was necessary to say "but there's good stuff out there if you dig for it" because everybody fucking knows that.
Yeah, the stuff that is remembered is good. But if you think everything from the decade was worth listening to, I suggest checking out the vinyl section from your nearest Goodwill.
And several decades from now, people are going to filter out all the crap just like they filtered out Barbra Streisand and "We Are The World" from the collective consious of the 1980's.
"Baawwwww! Someone called me names on the internet! That means they're a child!" Fuck off and accept that you're old.