So many problems would be solved if marriage were treated like any other contract. The current system rewards women for breaking the contract, so it's little wonder that they're constantly throwing their husbands in the garbage. It's insane to enter into a contract with someone who's essentially being bribed into fucking you over.
Speaking for the male side of things, I don't think people are souring on fatherhood. The problem is that fatherhood has been dead in the West for the last 50 years or so. When a man has kids he's not signing up to be a father, he's signing up to be a pay pig. Any other role wrt the child is at the mother's sole discretion, and men are wising up to that fact.
Most people who even notice the problems have absolutely zero idea the absolute abominations that young men have to deal with today.
Too many out of touch old people giving comment they have no right to give.
Until you've been in our position, you won't understand. Even the 40-50 year olds are still miles away from what young women are, and it gets worse every generation. Some countries have teenage girls hiring gang members to dispose of boys they don't like.
Less dramatic, you've got the massive doxxing groups they run...
Soon, even my perspective will be outdated. I can't say I've been romantically or even platonically close to an 18 year old woman in a while.
The issue isn't people not having kids, its that the RIGHT people aren't having kids
The ones that will always have a lot of kids are the religious and dumb people. The religious because they want to spread and multiply to make their faith more prominent, dumb people because they don't give a fuck, they want their dick wet and enjoy the feeling of a creampie.
The 'smart' people (as this is subjective) take too long umming and ahhing about costs, the environment, getting a good school, right home location etc that they put off having kids and sometimes too late to have them. The left are just hedonistic abortion freaks which kept natural numbers low so they tried to replace that with indoctrination in education, fortunately from some of the videos of 'pride month' coming out, it's no longer as effective so they'll die off in a generation.
Edit: when I say RIGHT people, that's the way the argument is framed. I'm all for the religious taking over again as unironically a LOT of people need Jesus. I'd be more concerned about dumb as we might make idiocracy as much of a documentary as Demolition man has, without the explosions.
That one link sums it up beautifully, am I advocating anything, no just that's the truth of it. It's not required to be smart, strong or really anything above average to survive in the modern era so it's no longer 'survival of the fittest' its 'who can procreate the most to drown out the others by demographics alone'
It's expensive.
It's exhausting.
You're FUCKED if you're partner turned out to be a fucking monster.
Your kids will probably be trained behind your back to stab you in the back.
and did I mention it's fucking exhausting?? My nephews are attention starved ADD sociopaths who can not take no for an answer. I don't need more of that shit in my life. A middle aged man can only be forced to play Fortnite so much before he breaks.. but I digress.
The social contract of marriage is broken.
The social contract of society is broken.
So many problems would be solved if marriage were treated like any other contract. The current system rewards women for breaking the contract, so it's little wonder that they're constantly throwing their husbands in the garbage. It's insane to enter into a contract with someone who's essentially being bribed into fucking you over.
Speaking for the male side of things, I don't think people are souring on fatherhood. The problem is that fatherhood has been dead in the West for the last 50 years or so. When a man has kids he's not signing up to be a father, he's signing up to be a pay pig. Any other role wrt the child is at the mother's sole discretion, and men are wising up to that fact.
There i answered the question. Btw It's even worse in south korea, god forbid you're born as a male korean in that dystopian shithole.
Nope, birth rates were higher in 2008 and 2009 than now.
Things look bad but at least men there are set on who their enemy is and can't be distracted. Just need a leader that will do something.
Haha hahaha..... You do realize they're still ruled a by a feminist cult, and if not the cult, samsung.
Actually, the current leader pledged to do something, but sold out because "low birth rates".
Similar to Fumio Kishida in Japan, who is allowing feminists to write rape laws in the hope women will have kids if they feel "protected"
In reality, it's a never ending racket, where they demand more and more until you end up bankrupt like Hungary.
All I can say is, the only people legitimately wondering are too old to understand.
We don't want these broken, used up, nasty fucking whores for a relationship, much less for marriage.
Yep. Most people who even notice the problems have absolutely zero idea the absolute abominations that young men have to deal with today.
Too many out of touch old people giving comment they have no right to give.
Until you've been in our position, you won't understand. Even the 40-50 year olds are still miles away from what young women are, and it gets worse every generation. Some countries have teenage girls hiring gang members to dispose of boys they don't like.
Less dramatic, you've got the massive doxxing groups they run...
Soon, even my perspective will be outdated. I can't say I've been romantically or even platonically close to an 18 year old woman in a while.
The issue isn't people not having kids, its that the RIGHT people aren't having kids
The ones that will always have a lot of kids are the religious and dumb people. The religious because they want to spread and multiply to make their faith more prominent, dumb people because they don't give a fuck, they want their dick wet and enjoy the feeling of a creampie.
The 'smart' people (as this is subjective) take too long umming and ahhing about costs, the environment, getting a good school, right home location etc that they put off having kids and sometimes too late to have them. The left are just hedonistic abortion freaks which kept natural numbers low so they tried to replace that with indoctrination in education, fortunately from some of the videos of 'pride month' coming out, it's no longer as effective so they'll die off in a generation.
Edit: when I say RIGHT people, that's the way the argument is framed. I'm all for the religious taking over again as unironically a LOT of people need Jesus. I'd be more concerned about dumb as we might make idiocracy as much of a documentary as Demolition man has, without the explosions.
Probably because I skipped past the 'women being hoes ruined marriage is why there's less kids and you ruined the economy to have kids part' and skipped to the crux of the issue: the overthinkers aren't having kids and the religious and uneducated are
That one link sums it up beautifully, am I advocating anything, no just that's the truth of it. It's not required to be smart, strong or really anything above average to survive in the modern era so it's no longer 'survival of the fittest' its 'who can procreate the most to drown out the others by demographics alone'
That's just Elon's stupid propaganda so he can have slaves mining cobalt and lithium for him.
TL;DW Progressives won't be able to reproduce in the long term and white Christians will.
People keep saying this but importing violent illiterate third-worlders focused entirely on gibs can outpace us
Ultimately, this is why I loathe white leftists most of all. They won’t even be here to suffer the consequences of their betrayal.
It's expensive. It's exhausting. You're FUCKED if you're partner turned out to be a fucking monster. Your kids will probably be trained behind your back to stab you in the back.
and did I mention it's fucking exhausting?? My nephews are attention starved ADD sociopaths who can not take no for an answer. I don't need more of that shit in my life. A middle aged man can only be forced to play Fortnite so much before he breaks.. but I digress.
Humanity is fucked. We got screwed by being born into this time period, but at least we weren't born 20 years in the future. They have no chance.