What I imagine is going to happen, and maybe soon, is some biker dad in Oklahoma is going to find out his son is being told to be a girl. He's going to go to the bar, tell his buddies about it, and take action. Or some guy will see, actually see, that he is now paying for other people's loans and go visit his bank. And then it's going to be open season.
There will be the usual media bullshit but people don't care anymore
And I strongly disagree. There will be waves and waves of disagreement about his actions, about how he shouldn't have taken the matter into his own hands and followed the rules. Because yeah, NOW we look up to people like Gary Plauché, but this was YEARS later, and moreover, you don't see people going out and killing pedos even if their name is known. It's not open season just because one guy got fed up. There was general dismissal, condemnation at taking the laws into his own hands, but a QUIET agreement with what he did. There was no uprising caused by a public vigilante. This is a pipe dream. A fantasy. Do I want it to happen? Fuck yeah. But stop kidding yourself that you, or me, or whoever else reads this comment is going to rise up. Did you rise up with Jan 6? No. There was an opportunity for a boiling point. But you weren't going to risk your life for this.
It doesn't need to get MUCH worse, for many people it already has.
I think you misunderstand me: When I said "It needs to get much worse before people are willing to risk what they have", I'm emphasising that people have it so fucking good these days that they don't understand what's truly at risk. We keep getting tired comparisons to Nineteen-Eighty-Four, but the reality is that we're far closer to Brave New World with mass compliance due to an abundance of happy distractions. And it is compliance at the end of the day. Because most people, including the ones here (myself included), are absolutely complying with most things. Not everything, but enough that it isn't rocking the boat all that much. I wish I had the capacity to not comply with more. But I don't. Because I have shit that I am not prepared to lose. I'm willing to fight for it and protect it. I'm not willing to lose it by fighting.
And this is often the crux of so many that rightfully complain about modern society while doing very little about their own situation: They're always waiting for Someone Else™ to come along and solve their problems. Can't start a revolution? Someone Else™ will surely do it.
And the reality is that it simply won't happen. There will never be Someone Else™ to rally behind. There will never be that miraculous moment where the stars align and you'll get some golden invitation in the mail to join a revolution. There will be no martyr. Your best bet is to build your own communities and get involved at grass roots levels. And when I say this, I am explicitly NOT talking about revolutionary groups that are almost definitely going to be a honey pot. I'm talking about groups that are all about independence. About you being as reliant upon yourself and those you directly know as possible, and not on a faceless bureaucracy or corporate board. Shit like getting to know your neighbours and those in your direct community. Because the reality is that that will have more impact on YOUR life and YOUR situation than ever expecting Someone Else™ to come save us all.
I think there is going to be a rise in vigilantism. When that biker dad does something and there are 4 other similar incidents that happen immediately after, that the media and politicians try to paint in a bad light but the reasons why come out, it won't stop. Not all are going to look at biker dad, or a future Gary Plauché, and think "Oh yeah he's a hero" but people will understand things can happen. And when people really start to see why these events happen they will work to address the cause in their community. The way in which it will be addressed will happen in different ways.
I don't see a huge wave or collective group pulling a "revolution" or anything like that. More likely a bunch of local things happening that will cause a (local) domino effect.
There are a ton of people waiting for Someone Else™ and are stupidly comfortable. I think, however, the amount of people it takes to rock the boat is much smaller than you think.
It wasn't long ago I shared the same opinion as you. But doing the things you mention, getting to know my neighbors, my community, only sharing certain opinions with people I've known for 10+ years has shown me people are getting
really fed up. My friend and his church is another (yes anecdotal) example.
Joining up with any group that calls itself some revolutionary group is, yes, most definitely a honeypot. I'm big on self reliance and building out your own communities or groups but it's not like we all need to wear the same patch and have secret handshakes. In my experience people are saying "Fight your fight and we will back you with whatever we can" there is no true "organization"
I do agree with you that at its base a statement like "well at least we are still armed" is worthless. But I do see people, individuals, taking action in what ever way they see fit, and others siding with them. That quiet agreement will take form, one way or another.
And I strongly disagree. There will be waves and waves of disagreement about his actions, about how he shouldn't have taken the matter into his own hands and followed the rules. Because yeah, NOW we look up to people like Gary Plauché, but this was YEARS later, and moreover, you don't see people going out and killing pedos even if their name is known. It's not open season just because one guy got fed up. There was general dismissal, condemnation at taking the laws into his own hands, but a QUIET agreement with what he did. There was no uprising caused by a public vigilante. This is a pipe dream. A fantasy. Do I want it to happen? Fuck yeah. But stop kidding yourself that you, or me, or whoever else reads this comment is going to rise up. Did you rise up with Jan 6? No. There was an opportunity for a boiling point. But you weren't going to risk your life for this.
I think you misunderstand me: When I said "It needs to get much worse before people are willing to risk what they have", I'm emphasising that people have it so fucking good these days that they don't understand what's truly at risk. We keep getting tired comparisons to Nineteen-Eighty-Four, but the reality is that we're far closer to Brave New World with mass compliance due to an abundance of happy distractions. And it is compliance at the end of the day. Because most people, including the ones here (myself included), are absolutely complying with most things. Not everything, but enough that it isn't rocking the boat all that much. I wish I had the capacity to not comply with more. But I don't. Because I have shit that I am not prepared to lose. I'm willing to fight for it and protect it. I'm not willing to lose it by fighting.
And this is often the crux of so many that rightfully complain about modern society while doing very little about their own situation: They're always waiting for Someone Else™ to come along and solve their problems. Can't start a revolution? Someone Else™ will surely do it.
And the reality is that it simply won't happen. There will never be Someone Else™ to rally behind. There will never be that miraculous moment where the stars align and you'll get some golden invitation in the mail to join a revolution. There will be no martyr. Your best bet is to build your own communities and get involved at grass roots levels. And when I say this, I am explicitly NOT talking about revolutionary groups that are almost definitely going to be a honey pot. I'm talking about groups that are all about independence. About you being as reliant upon yourself and those you directly know as possible, and not on a faceless bureaucracy or corporate board. Shit like getting to know your neighbours and those in your direct community. Because the reality is that that will have more impact on YOUR life and YOUR situation than ever expecting Someone Else™ to come save us all.
I think there is going to be a rise in vigilantism. When that biker dad does something and there are 4 other similar incidents that happen immediately after, that the media and politicians try to paint in a bad light but the reasons why come out, it won't stop. Not all are going to look at biker dad, or a future Gary Plauché, and think "Oh yeah he's a hero" but people will understand things can happen. And when people really start to see why these events happen they will work to address the cause in their community. The way in which it will be addressed will happen in different ways.
I don't see a huge wave or collective group pulling a "revolution" or anything like that. More likely a bunch of local things happening that will cause a (local) domino effect.
There are a ton of people waiting for Someone Else™ and are stupidly comfortable. I think, however, the amount of people it takes to rock the boat is much smaller than you think.
It wasn't long ago I shared the same opinion as you. But doing the things you mention, getting to know my neighbors, my community, only sharing certain opinions with people I've known for 10+ years has shown me people are getting really fed up. My friend and his church is another (yes anecdotal) example.
Joining up with any group that calls itself some revolutionary group is, yes, most definitely a honeypot. I'm big on self reliance and building out your own communities or groups but it's not like we all need to wear the same patch and have secret handshakes. In my experience people are saying "Fight your fight and we will back you with whatever we can" there is no true "organization"
I do agree with you that at its base a statement like "well at least we are still armed" is worthless. But I do see people, individuals, taking action in what ever way they see fit, and others siding with them. That quiet agreement will take form, one way or another.