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posted 2 years ago by Wizard18 2 years ago by Wizard18 +12 / -1
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– dekachin 2 points 2 years ago +6 / -4

Right hawks like me advocate for the US dramatically reducing our presence in Europe. We have 100k troops there now. We ought to cut that down to 20k or so. Time for the US to stop subsidizing EU security over $30 billion per year. Let them carry their weight for a change.

Then take all that savings & shift it to the 1st island chain to help defend Taiwan.

Europe isn't where the future of humanity will be decided. It's the old world. Asia is the axis on which human civilization will turn for the next century. China is a massive and rapidly rising threat there.

But the liberal media only cares about Europe because that's where all their friends in the liberal elite are. There aren't really liberal elites in asia. Liberal white people, for all their jogger worship, actually just see asians as too alien & don't really care about them.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

We have 100k troops there now. We ought to cut that down to 20k or so. Time for the US to stop subsidizing EU security over $30 billion per year. Let them carry their weight for a change.

The US doesn't do this out of charity. It does this so it can control Europe. There is nothing charitable about the GAE.

Shitlibs are also fully on board with fighting to the last Taiwanese to make line go up "defending Taiwan's freedom and democracy."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/28/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/kamala-harris-japan-taiwan/

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– SoctaticMethod1 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'd advise caution on that, It'd be better the US provided more arms (some ordered by Taiwan but redirected to Ukraine) because there are idiots in the pentagon that think an offensive war into China can be won.

Providing aircraft, armour, anti AA and missiles that can be used against naval and amphibious landing craft would be the best call. The military leadership in the US has been getting worse as they let slip where the aircraft carrier in that region is located which is one of the key things China needs to destroy in order to attack Taiwan so better Taiwan has the best weapons available that it can afflict massive causalities on any invasion attempt.

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– TriangleGang 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Nuclear weapons kept the peace for 50 years, and they can do so again. The best way to deter a Chinese of invasion of Taiwan is to give Taiwan nuclear weapons and walk away. China is not going to invade that island if it means Beijing gets incinerated.

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Only one problem with that, NO ONE is giving nukes, they have to be in-house made and Taiwan lacks the facilities and resources required to make one.

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– redman012 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

They could just do what the UK does and give Taiwan a bunch of subs with nukes

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– TheModernDaVinci 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

We ought to cut that down to 20k or so.

Even more than that, keep them in the countries that actually like us (IE: Poland, Italy, Czech Republic, Baltic States, etc). Why should we be helping countries like Germany and France who hate our guts and keep trying to stab us in the back.

Asia is the axis on which human civilization will turn for the next century.

Even with everything happening here, I still think it is going to be the American century when all is said and done. But the future of America is absolutely in Asia, not Europe.

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– dekachin 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

We don't have bases in France because the French don't want us there & know they're safe hiding behind Germany, but I agree we should make the bulk of the cuts to Germany & only keep a presence there at all if we need it for logistics.

But the future of America is absolutely in Asia, not Europe.

I agree. And when I say "Asia is the axis on which human civilization will turn for the next century." I don't mean the US won't still be the leader, but we ought to focus on leading Asia, not Europe.

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– dekachin 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

The US does not pay the EU money in cash.

The $30b is the effective subsidy based on the money we pay to keep the forces there.

As to "liberating Europe". No thank you. The US already has a bunch of libtards. We don't need to conquer more.

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