Ron DeSantis has a good track record as governor, but I'm not so sure he's not using the Populist movement as a weapon for his own personal advancement. Trump has glaring flaws: mostly related to the fact that he sucks at figuring out how to build excellent staff or coalitions around him (instead he just has people compete for his attention). Vivek Ramaswamy I just don't trust: he comes out of absolutely nowhere and acts like a titan for populism, but I feel like he may be a plant?
Larry Elder? I know Larry Elder is a blood red conservative who's been doing this shit longer than any of them. Larry Elder was challenging the narrative of the Central Park 5 back when Trump was a 90's Democrat. Larry Elder has been quarreling with the Black Nationalist movement for decades. Larry Elder remembers when the Black conservative movement was basically just him, Clarance Thomas, and Thomas Sowell.
Just having Larry Elder on the stage is a win. He's going to show the normies what an actual anti-woke take looks like, how to make it eloquently, and how to fight the Left. Better yet, when Democrats start funding the Black National Socialist movement's Kristallnacht as a response to solidify the Left and burn down America in race riots; it will be Larry Elder pushing the absolute hardest back against them in the hardest possible ways, live on TV.
I don't even care if he wins. I don't care if he's doing this for a political appointment as VP, or if he's he's doing this to get more attention for a new book, his show, or the Epoch Times. Having him on the debate stage is a fucking win.
Bonus points if Trump calls him "Leisure Suit Larry"
the Black conservative movement was basically just him, Clarance Thomas, and Thomas Sowell
Aren't they still the entire Black Conservative Movement today? Seriously though I don't think he'll win but I'd vote for him in the hopes he becomes a good VP or cabinet pick.
will be Larry Elder pushing the absolute hardest back against them in the hardest possible ways, live on TV
He'll without hesitation be called a White Supremacist by all major media. I'm excited.
Elder has decent conservative credentials and I actually like him.
Still I do think him running for CA governor during the CA recall fucked up the entire recall.
The CA GOP had a shot to atleast give Newsom a scare but once Elder joined the race, for some fucking reason Elder talked about him having the potential of replacing Dianne Feinstein's Senate seat with a conservative and that one statement spooked all of the soft Newsom disapprovers to eventually getting behind Newsom. That statement was a disaster and Elder was too earnest to avoid making that statement. He is sadly too nice.
Newsom ended up winning the recall by the same margin he won his first Gov election by. The recall ended up boosting Newsom's status.
I doubt Elder even makes the Presidential debate stage since from what I heard from local GOP members, the RNC this time will be instituting a polling requirement of something like atleast getting 5 percent to make the main debate stage.
My guess is that the only candidates who will poll well enough to even be on that main stage are Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott and maybe Mike Pence if he actually runs.
Larry Elder is not going to make the main debate cutoff if the cutoff is 5 percent. If the cutoff is like the 2016 cutoff of one percent he will get in.
Yep I also would love to see Tim Scott and Nikki Haley both get blasted for their support of BLM.
Nikki Haley was dumb enough to run for President and somehow still not delete her stupid virtue signalling tweet signifying support for Bubba Wallace during the noose hoax.
Tim Scott is cringe and supports BLM but he is nowhere near as malicious or as much of a neocon as Nikki.
Haley needs to be humiliated so much that she starts to regret even running for POTUS in the first place.
Still I do think him running for CA governor during the CA recall fucked up the entire recall.
The recall was as stolen as the 2020 presidential election, if not worse because it was concentrated in the one state that has "fortification" down pat more than any other.
I'm talking 1000%+ voter turnout being registered in certain counties, Republican voters being told they had already voted, voting machines breaking down but only in red districts, every stop was pulled out to keep that megalomaniac in power.
Also, even with the above, it was a lot closer than you would think, considering the vengeful and vindictive actions Gruesome Newsome took immediately after avoiding being recalled, because how dare the plebs want to get rid of him.
Source: Used to live there, but by God's grace managed to finally GTFO after living there all my life
Ron DeSantis has a good track record as governor, but I'm not so sure he's not using the Populist movement as a weapon for his own personal advancement.
I dont. He has gone far too hard in the paint on a number of issues that would have been better for him to back down on for it to all just be a ruse. He has also been significantly better at picking staff that will go just as hard as he does and then tell the journos "you disgust me" when they come looking for answers.
Unlike Trump who may have picked a handful of good people but was getting backstabbed by court politics basically from the moment he drummed out Bannon. On the recommendations of said court politics, fittingly enough.
All that said, I think Larry does better nationally, but still doesnt actually win it. But like you said, him being there to drag the Overton Window and take a sledgehammer to the resurgent Black Nationalist narratives is absolutely a win in its own right.
I don't think it's a full scale ruse; I think he's just got a bit of Ted Cruz in him. All in all, we could do worse than Ted Cruz if he became president, and he genuinely would fight wokeness on some level. He's not a complete fraud like Lindsey Graham.
I'm glad Trump's warming back up to Bannon. Honestly one of the worst staffing decisions he made.
I don't suspect Larry Elder would win the presidency except for some kind of insane circumstance, like Trump getting assassinated or imprisoned. But yeah, Larry could bulldozer any topic he'd set his sights on; and if he got a cabinet position out of it, we could just consider that whole area secured. Make him in charge of the Department of Education, see what the fuck happens.
I don't think it's a full scale ruse; I think he's just got a bit of Ted Cruz in him.
Honestly, I think it is more like what went down with Reagan. You start out as something completely the opposite (Reagan was a communist, DeSantis was a NeoCon). But then once you start getting into positions where you get to see behind the curtain and learn the truth about what you are arguing for, and you have the conviction, you backlash. And then you become the exact opposite of what you used to be (Reagan becoming a founding Neo-Liberal back when that meant something, DeSantis becoming an arch American Populist), and you fight twice as hard because "I know what you will do if you win."
Make him in charge of the Department of Education, see what the fuck happens.
I can hear the absolutely titanic reeing now. I just hope that, if Trump wins, he and his people take a page from DeSantis book when dealing with the media: Dont even bother trying to explain yourself or make them come around to your side. Tell them to bite your ass, and bulldoze through to get the job done. And then let the people rally to your deeds, ignoring the media all together.
Don't forget that Reagan's 2nd term gave way to the beginnings of Neo-Conservativism, and the increasing influence of the former director of the CIA as his VP: George Bush Sr. Even a guy as good as Reagan can be co-opted.
That lesson is good, but there's a better one, which comes from DeSantis showing the explicit material of a 'queer education' text that was in a grade school. It goes back to one of the reasons I actually had no objection with r-WatchPeopleDie on Reddit.
People have no idea how much stuff is actively censored from them, and when done for so long: how badly that alters your capability of receiving reality. When WPD was being shut down, one of the things that I heard from most people who went to the sub was: "This place convinced me to always wear a seat belt." Followed by, "This place taught me to be much more careful."
When you don't see gore, you miss the necessary feedback mechanism in your neurology that teaches you when something is lethally dangerous. One of the saddest things, but most important things, about WPD is that there was hardly any videos where you could think that "if he had just done X during the event, he'd be alive". You will almost never get a chance to fight for your survival, and if you are lucky enough to get that chance, you'll have only seconds, maybe 1, maybe 5, it's a miracle if you get 10; and normally you earned those 10.
See, the time you get to fight for your life is based on the hours, days, or even years of decisions you've been previously making... and you don't totally know it. If there are read flags, they'll be laying on the ground. You don't get warning buzzers, no one's going to try to dissuade you, and it's not going to be readily apparent how dangerous what you're doing is.
People don't know how hard dying is, how tragic it is, how gory it is, and how scary it is. They don't know because they don't see it in their daily life, and it's censored in the news. So when the lethal event happens, the normalcy bias overtakes everything because this is the first time they've ever seen behind the censored video. That's the power of censorship, and it's not even done maliciously.
So, when DeSantis shows, uncensored, on live television, in a public briefing, how a textbook shows children how to use a butt plug; the value in that is showing the face of the evil to normies who never even imagined that anyone would do that; let alone that entire institutions are built to protect the people who are doing that. The value in showing the face of evil and calling it out is something that conservatives don't want to fully commit to; because it's very uncooth, and they have always tended to live in environments which censor immorality.
Honestly, I'm stoked.
Ron DeSantis has a good track record as governor, but I'm not so sure he's not using the Populist movement as a weapon for his own personal advancement. Trump has glaring flaws: mostly related to the fact that he sucks at figuring out how to build excellent staff or coalitions around him (instead he just has people compete for his attention). Vivek Ramaswamy I just don't trust: he comes out of absolutely nowhere and acts like a titan for populism, but I feel like he may be a plant?
Larry Elder? I know Larry Elder is a blood red conservative who's been doing this shit longer than any of them. Larry Elder was challenging the narrative of the Central Park 5 back when Trump was a 90's Democrat. Larry Elder has been quarreling with the Black Nationalist movement for decades. Larry Elder remembers when the Black conservative movement was basically just him, Clarance Thomas, and Thomas Sowell.
Just having Larry Elder on the stage is a win. He's going to show the normies what an actual anti-woke take looks like, how to make it eloquently, and how to fight the Left. Better yet, when Democrats start funding the Black National Socialist movement's Kristallnacht as a response to solidify the Left and burn down America in race riots; it will be Larry Elder pushing the absolute hardest back against them in the hardest possible ways, live on TV.
I don't even care if he wins. I don't care if he's doing this for a political appointment as VP, or if he's he's doing this to get more attention for a new book, his show, or the Epoch Times. Having him on the debate stage is a fucking win.
Bonus points if Trump calls him "Leisure Suit Larry"
Aren't they still the entire Black Conservative Movement today? Seriously though I don't think he'll win but I'd vote for him in the hopes he becomes a good VP or cabinet pick.
He'll without hesitation be called a White Supremacist by all major media. I'm excited.
It's honestly much larger than it used to be.
This is my biggest hope. Let there be BofA sponsored race riots, and let Larry Elder go absolutely off on them on a national debate. Love it.
I hope you are right. I’ve been a fan since the early 00s. I don’t see him getting far but you are right about his credentials
Elder has decent conservative credentials and I actually like him.
Still I do think him running for CA governor during the CA recall fucked up the entire recall.
The CA GOP had a shot to atleast give Newsom a scare but once Elder joined the race, for some fucking reason Elder talked about him having the potential of replacing Dianne Feinstein's Senate seat with a conservative and that one statement spooked all of the soft Newsom disapprovers to eventually getting behind Newsom. That statement was a disaster and Elder was too earnest to avoid making that statement. He is sadly too nice.
Newsom ended up winning the recall by the same margin he won his first Gov election by. The recall ended up boosting Newsom's status.
I doubt Elder even makes the Presidential debate stage since from what I heard from local GOP members, the RNC this time will be instituting a polling requirement of something like atleast getting 5 percent to make the main debate stage.
My guess is that the only candidates who will poll well enough to even be on that main stage are Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott and maybe Mike Pence if he actually runs.
Larry Elder is not going to make the main debate cutoff if the cutoff is 5 percent. If the cutoff is like the 2016 cutoff of one percent he will get in.
California will never have a non-Democrat gov again, 'cause the party machine will just cheat.
Non-uniparty gov.* Politicians are constantly making backroom deals, so they might put a RINO governor in again just for appearances sake.
I hope Scott and Haley do get on stage and the issue of BLM gets brought up. That will be interesting.
Yep I also would love to see Tim Scott and Nikki Haley both get blasted for their support of BLM.
Nikki Haley was dumb enough to run for President and somehow still not delete her stupid virtue signalling tweet signifying support for Bubba Wallace during the noose hoax.
Tim Scott is cringe and supports BLM but he is nowhere near as malicious or as much of a neocon as Nikki.
Haley needs to be humiliated so much that she starts to regret even running for POTUS in the first place.
I’m wondering if he is hoping for a cabinet position
Maybe he wants a cabinet position or maybe he just wants to market his work to a larger audience.
Hard to guess what he really wants.
The recall was as stolen as the 2020 presidential election, if not worse because it was concentrated in the one state that has "fortification" down pat more than any other.
I'm talking 1000%+ voter turnout being registered in certain counties, Republican voters being told they had already voted, voting machines breaking down but only in red districts, every stop was pulled out to keep that megalomaniac in power.
Also, even with the above, it was a lot closer than you would think, considering the vengeful and vindictive actions Gruesome Newsome took immediately after avoiding being recalled, because how dare the plebs want to get rid of him.
Source: Used to live there, but by God's grace managed to finally GTFO after living there all my life
Hell, if he has a Tulsi Gabbard moment and blows up Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, or Tim Scott; it'll be worth the price of admission.
I dont. He has gone far too hard in the paint on a number of issues that would have been better for him to back down on for it to all just be a ruse. He has also been significantly better at picking staff that will go just as hard as he does and then tell the journos "you disgust me" when they come looking for answers.
Unlike Trump who may have picked a handful of good people but was getting backstabbed by court politics basically from the moment he drummed out Bannon. On the recommendations of said court politics, fittingly enough.
All that said, I think Larry does better nationally, but still doesnt actually win it. But like you said, him being there to drag the Overton Window and take a sledgehammer to the resurgent Black Nationalist narratives is absolutely a win in its own right.
I don't think it's a full scale ruse; I think he's just got a bit of Ted Cruz in him. All in all, we could do worse than Ted Cruz if he became president, and he genuinely would fight wokeness on some level. He's not a complete fraud like Lindsey Graham.
I'm glad Trump's warming back up to Bannon. Honestly one of the worst staffing decisions he made.
I don't suspect Larry Elder would win the presidency except for some kind of insane circumstance, like Trump getting assassinated or imprisoned. But yeah, Larry could bulldozer any topic he'd set his sights on; and if he got a cabinet position out of it, we could just consider that whole area secured. Make him in charge of the Department of Education, see what the fuck happens.
Honestly, I think it is more like what went down with Reagan. You start out as something completely the opposite (Reagan was a communist, DeSantis was a NeoCon). But then once you start getting into positions where you get to see behind the curtain and learn the truth about what you are arguing for, and you have the conviction, you backlash. And then you become the exact opposite of what you used to be (Reagan becoming a founding Neo-Liberal back when that meant something, DeSantis becoming an arch American Populist), and you fight twice as hard because "I know what you will do if you win."
I can hear the absolutely titanic reeing now. I just hope that, if Trump wins, he and his people take a page from DeSantis book when dealing with the media: Dont even bother trying to explain yourself or make them come around to your side. Tell them to bite your ass, and bulldoze through to get the job done. And then let the people rally to your deeds, ignoring the media all together.
Don't forget that Reagan's 2nd term gave way to the beginnings of Neo-Conservativism, and the increasing influence of the former director of the CIA as his VP: George Bush Sr. Even a guy as good as Reagan can be co-opted.
That lesson is good, but there's a better one, which comes from DeSantis showing the explicit material of a 'queer education' text that was in a grade school. It goes back to one of the reasons I actually had no objection with r-WatchPeopleDie on Reddit.
People have no idea how much stuff is actively censored from them, and when done for so long: how badly that alters your capability of receiving reality. When WPD was being shut down, one of the things that I heard from most people who went to the sub was: "This place convinced me to always wear a seat belt." Followed by, "This place taught me to be much more careful."
When you don't see gore, you miss the necessary feedback mechanism in your neurology that teaches you when something is lethally dangerous. One of the saddest things, but most important things, about WPD is that there was hardly any videos where you could think that "if he had just done X during the event, he'd be alive". You will almost never get a chance to fight for your survival, and if you are lucky enough to get that chance, you'll have only seconds, maybe 1, maybe 5, it's a miracle if you get 10; and normally you earned those 10.
See, the time you get to fight for your life is based on the hours, days, or even years of decisions you've been previously making... and you don't totally know it. If there are read flags, they'll be laying on the ground. You don't get warning buzzers, no one's going to try to dissuade you, and it's not going to be readily apparent how dangerous what you're doing is.
People don't know how hard dying is, how tragic it is, how gory it is, and how scary it is. They don't know because they don't see it in their daily life, and it's censored in the news. So when the lethal event happens, the normalcy bias overtakes everything because this is the first time they've ever seen behind the censored video. That's the power of censorship, and it's not even done maliciously.
So, when DeSantis shows, uncensored, on live television, in a public briefing, how a textbook shows children how to use a butt plug; the value in that is showing the face of the evil to normies who never even imagined that anyone would do that; let alone that entire institutions are built to protect the people who are doing that. The value in showing the face of evil and calling it out is something that conservatives don't want to fully commit to; because it's very uncooth, and they have always tended to live in environments which censor immorality.