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Skinhead SBU (Ukraine's KGB) chief brags about intimidating judges after a woman was acquitted for making online comments (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 3 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +21 / -0
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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

yawn

much better to let Putin's evil empire expand and do the same shit but worse, and then attempt to amass power to fight a war against NATO eventually.

puppy play

your obsession with that tranny is disturbing

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

much better to let Putin's evil empire expand and do the same shit but worse

"But they are WORSE!"

I wouldn't mind as much if the criminal regimes you support admitted what this is about. This is about their power. This is about geopolitics. This isn't about your phony 'democracy', nor is it about the sovereignty of a puppet non-country. It's the hypocrisy and the deceit that bothers me.

and then attempt to amass power to fight a war against NATO eventually.

Just yesterday, you were lecturing me about how Putin is rational, and that he doesn't want to get nuked. Now he wants to fight a war against NATO, which will get him nuked.

your obsession with that tranny is disturbing

It's disturbing that such a 'person' gets a high government position, and that you export his deviance, BLM and other nonsense to my country. Not you personally.

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– dekachin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This is about their power. This is about geopolitics. This isn't about your phony 'democracy', nor is it about the sovereignty of a puppet non-country. It's the hypocrisy and the deceit that bothers me.

Wrong, it's about protecting a free and peaceful people from the jaws of an evil empire. It's about doing what is right and good in the face of evil. You just can't stand that your team in all this is so unabashedly evil and you need to engage in this pretzel twist logic as a cope so you can pretend that your enemies are not as righteous as they so clearly are.

And obviously I don't know or care who this guy is, and he doesn't represent Ukraine, but Ukraine has always been admitted to have issues because it is a descendant of the USSR and inherited corrupt Soviet culture.

Just yesterday, you were lecturing me about how Putin is rational, and that he doesn't want to get nuked. Now he wants to fight a war against NATO, which will get him nuked.

No, there is no reason to believe that NATO would use nukes against Russia in response to a conventional attack, especially since NATO could quite easily stomp any conventional attack conventionally without any need for nukes.

It's disturbing that such a 'person' gets a high government position, and that you export his deviance, BLM and other nonsense to my country. Not you personally.

It is true that intersectionality, the ideology of wokeness, demands that trannies be appointed to high government positons as a reward for being shock troops for the intersectional coalition, though the bag snatcher was in a somewhat power position and a much more senior tranny is 17th Assistant Secretary for Health ADMIRAL Rachel Leland Levine.

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– current_horror 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Man, you really did swallow the civnat dick, huh? This is painful to read. You’d cheer for a tranny marrying a six year old as long as they’re all wearing an American flag. It’s pathetic.

America was a nation. A nation is a people. That people is gone. Replaced by mass immigration, brainwashed by Jewish Bolsheviks, drugged by cartels and China. Russia is about the furthest thing we have for an enemy right now, and you call them evil. Utterly retarded.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Wrong, it's about protecting a free and peaceful people from the jaws of an evil empire.

Like the US overthrew Mossadegh, like it planned to assassinate Lumumba, like it did a color revolution against Yanukovich.

Ukraine is not "free". They're banning the Orthodox Church. The SBU intimidates judges to get sentences of TWELVE years against people criticizing the garbage government run from the State Department.

Ukraine is not "peaceful". It's been terrorizing the Donbas for 8 years. It's been gathering arms and munitions to mount an assault on the Donbas. Ukraine has been agitating for a world war for a year now.

Ukraine is not even a country. It's been part of the Russian Empire for over 200 years. It's a pathetic shithole, a miserable failure of even a fake country with a fraction of the per capita GDP of Russia.

The disappearance of this corrupt, puppet shithole non-country will be a net improvement for freedom, peace and count of purported countries that are actual countries.

It's about doing what is right and good in the face of evil.

That is the dumb people explanation, and you are not dumb. You suffer from an over-identification with the criminals who rule your country.

When has the US government done what is "right and good"? Evil is launching wars of aggression on the other side of the world, in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yugoslavia. Evil is overthrowing a democratically elected president in 2014 to expand your empire. Evil is sabotaging a peace agreement between Malorussia and Great Russia for your own geopolitical ambitions.

You just can't stand that your team in all this is so unabashedly evil

The evil side is the one that provoked the war, and which is now (in the words of the psycho neocon Lindsey Graham) fighting until the last Ukrainian.

And obviously I don't know or care who this guy is, and he doesn't represent Ukraine,

The HEAD of its intelligence service doesn't respresent Ukraine? Then who does?

but Ukraine has always been admitted to have issues because it is a descendant of the USSR and inherited corrupt Soviet culture.

Ukraine was doing much better under the USSR, despite the counterproductive communist economic system.

No, there is no reason to believe that NATO would use nukes against Russia in response to a conventional attack, especially since NATO could quite easily stomp any conventional attack conventionally without any need for nukes.

So you simultaneously argue that Putin is such a threat that he is working on attacking NATO, but he's also so weak that NATO will easily repulse it? It all makes zero sense. It's the typical Doublethink that you were taught to think by your media.

If there will be no nuclear war due to an invasion of NATO by Russia (even where it has no right to be under its No Inch East promise), then there's nothing to worry about, right?

It is true that intersectionality, the ideology of wokeness, demands that trannies be appointed to high government positons as a reward for being shock troops for the intersectional coalition, though the bag snatcher was in a somewhat power position and a much more senior tranny is 17th Assistant Secretary for Health ADMIRAL Rachel Leland Levine.

Ah yes, the first female admiral. Responsible for many thousands of deaths in Pennsylvania.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Like the US overthrew Mossadegh

who?

you're bringing up some shit from the 1950s? 70 years old at this point? LOL

not relevant

The US isn't like it was back then. I wish it was, but it's not.

it did a color revolution against Yanukovich.

The Ukrainian people did that revolution on their own after Yanukovich outed himself as a Russian puppet and enemy of democracy. The US was not involved at all, it was solely the will of the Ukrainian people.

Ukraine is not "free". They're banning the Orthodox Church.

Only the RUSSIAN Orthodox Church, which they have caught multiple times acting as a front for Russian government espionage. 100% legitimate ban.

The Ukrainian Orthodox Church will still be around.

The SBU intimidates judges to get sentences of TWELVE years against people criticizing the garbage government run from the State Department.

Don't know about that, don't care regardless. Ukraine does not have to be perfect and sinless to deserve Western aid to preserve its freedom and sovereignty against an evil Russian empire and it's goals of Ukrainian cultural genocide. Whatever flaws Ukraine has, it inherited from the evil Russian-led Soviet Union.

Ukraine is not "peaceful". It's been terrorizing the Donbas for 8 years. It's been gathering arms and munitions to mount an assault on the Donbas.

Donbas is part of Ukraine's internationally recognized borders. Putin conducted an invasion in 2014 and lied to claim he wasn't doing it when he obviously was.

Ukraine has always been within its right to drive the illegal Russian invasion out of Donbas.

Ukraine is not even a country.

It literally is, and you are mentally ill for suggesting otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_relations_of_Ukraine

It's been part of the Russian Empire for over 200 years.

False.

The USSR was, according to Russians, not a "Russian Empire", therefore the Russian empire ceased to exist in 1917, and Ukraine existed as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which included Crimea. In 1991, it became a fully independent nation and has been such for 32 years now.

It's a pathetic shithole, a miserable failure of even a fake country with a fraction of the per capita GDP of Russia.

And yet... Russia is willing to throw away its whole military and future in a failed attempt to conquer it.

And yet... Russia is inferior militarily to Ukraine and incapable of defeating it on the battlefield, and has lost at least 2 major battles to Ukraine, the only two times Ukraine launched offensives.

The disappearance of this corrupt, puppet shithole non-country will be a net improvement for freedom, peace and count of purported countries that are actual countries.

Spoken like someone who shills for the Russian government, either paid or unpaid.

That is the dumb people explanation, and you are not dumb.

No, it is the correct explanation. You suffer from the delusion that all people are just as evil as the corrupt Russian elites are, and some people just hide it better. This is so clearly contradicted by history and current events as I have witnessed them throughout my lifetime that I can only conclude you are willfully delusional in order to cope and engage in apologia for the evil Russian leadership.

When has the US government done what is "right and good"?

Pretty much everything the US does. I wish the US government would behave more selfishly but the US State Dept is infested with "do gooders" who waste US taxpayer funds to virtue signal.

I don't think the US SHOULD be good. We should be a ruthless, dominating empire that ALLOWS the world freedom as a sort of noblesse oblige.

The evil side is the one that provoked the war, and which is now (in the words of the psycho neocon Lindsey Graham) fighting until the last Ukrainian.

You sound like a rapist blaming his rape victim for "provoking" him by wearing a tight dress.

The HEAD of its intelligence service doesn't respresent Ukraine? Then who does?

It's elected officials.

The head of Ukraine's intelligence is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrylo_Budanov

Vasyl Malyuk is lower rank and heads the KGB descendant SBU only quite recently since 7 February 2023: "The agency was viewed negatively by the Ukrainian public for much of its history, as it was widely regarded as corrupt and was best known for arresting and intimidating political dissidents. After the Revolution of Dignity in 2014, the SBU went through a restructuring with the transition to the new government, because of its corruption and infiltration by the intelligence agencies of Russia."

Apparently he obtained his position for being ruthless against Russian spies, a desirable trait in a war. Apparently he is good at his job since you are so angry with him.

Ukraine was doing much better under the USSR, despite the counterproductive communist economic system.

HAH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Russia has also gone to great lengths to hold Ukraine down since 1991 and keep Ukraine corrupt and under Russia's control. That's why the people got fed up and wanted to break free from Russian domination and seek out the EU instead.

So you simultaneously argue that Putin is such a threat that he is working on attacking NATO, but he's also so weak that NATO will easily repulse it?

Correct. An attack, however easily repulsed, is better prevented altogether. Why waste NATO lives when Ukraine is willing to do the fighting and destroy the Russian military for us? It's a win-win. Ukraine keeps its freedom & NATO gets to destroy the Russian military without a single casualty.

If there will be no nuclear war due to an invasion of NATO by Russia (even where it has no right to be under its No Inch East promise), then there's nothing to worry about, right?

Since when is non-nuclear war not worrisome? I think the entire policy of the United States regarding China ought to be oriented towards gaining maximum advantage in the future CONVENTIONAL war I expect China to launch against our allies.

Ah yes, the first female admiral. Responsible for many thousands of deaths in Pennsylvania.

Never forget her 1st murder victim, a man named Richard Levine.

You'd be surprised how hard it was to find out "her" birth name. It's totally scrubbed from all left wing sources and banned by policy at wikipedia. No news articles mention it. Had to get a washington times (known for leaning right wing) article from years ago.

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– Grumman 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

let Putin's evil empire expand

Into a former Soviet republic after it had been toppled by an American-backed colour revolution? It's like denouncing American military expansion after they invade Alaska.

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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

former Soviet republic

Ukraine has been an independent country for 32 years.

American-backed colour revolution

American had nothing to do with it. The Ukrainian people were fed up with being ruled by a Russian puppet.

It's like denouncing American military expansion after they invade Alaska.

Alaska is an American state. The better analogy would be if the US invaded the Philippines now in 2023 after the Philippines has been an independent country for many decades.

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– Grumman 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

American had nothing to do with it.

We have the Assistant Secretary of State on tape deciding who should be installed as the new leader.

The Ukrainian people were fed up with being ruled by a Russian puppet.

The Ukrainian people didn't revolt, Kievans did. Seven times more people voted for the Russian puppet than the guy installed in his place, but Yanukovych's support was out in the boondocks while Yatsenyuk's was concentrated in the capital. Imagine if 90% Democrat Washington, D.C. overthrew Trump - would that have been an expression of the will of the people?

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We have the Assistant Secretary of State on tape deciding who should be installed as the new leader.

No, that's not what she said at all. She was talking to another person in the State Dept and described who she liked as candidates, which is an ordinary call for a diplomat to have. She didn't say anything about installing anyone.

The person who won, won as a result of a public vote taken by the Ukrainian parliament, not because of anything Nuland said in private.

The Ukrainian people didn't revolt, Kievans did.

No, large parts of the country did. More success was had in pro-EU areas and less in pro-Russia areas.

Seven times more people voted for the Russian puppet than the guy installed in his place

Yanukovych only got 48.95% in 2010 with 12,481,266, narrowly beating Yulia Tymoshenko who got 45.47%, to prevent her from running again.

The 2014 Ukrainian presidential election wasn't a 2-way race, it was a 5-way race, yet Petro Poroshenko still won with 54.70% & 9,857,308 votes. The vote total was SLIGHTLY lower (not 7x as you claim) because Russia invaded Crimea & Donbass, so those areas did not vote.

Yanukovych's support was out in the boondocks while Yatsenyuk's was concentrated in the capital.

I don't know why you are talking about comparing a President to Prime Minister Yatsenyuk when they are different positions & Petro Poroshenko, winner of the 2014 presidential election, is the relevant person to be talking about.

Imagine if 90% Democrat Washington, D.C. overthrew Trump - would that have been an expression of the will of the people?

Imagine if months later, they held a nationwide vote for President and someone else was democratically elected.

yes, "that have been an expression of the will of the people"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_presidential_election

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Ukraine has been an independent country for 32 years.

It was independent between 1992 and 2014. That's 22 years. It was part of Russia for over 200 years, so that still outweighs that.

The Ukrainian people were fed up with being ruled by a Russian puppet.

Yanukovich was no puppet, he was actually elected unlike the thugs who were installed at the command of Victoria Nuland.

Alaska is an American state

It is? It's been part of America for far shorter than Little Russia has been part of Russia, so Russia has greater claim to Ukraine than you do to Alaska.

The better analogy would be if the US invaded the Philippines now in 2023 after the Philippines has been an independent country for many decades.

Philippines are not American, either ethnically or linguistically. The best analogy is the Confederacy. It's funny how you don't give your own states the right to secede, but always demand for others the 'right' to secede in order to weaken other countries and wreck them.

And you claimed that Serbia invaded KOSOVO, and that Russia invaded CHECHNYA. Basically, it's an "invasion" whenever it suits your empire, and it's not whenever it doesn't.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It was independent between 1992 and 2014.

I fail to see how the Russian invasion of Crimea & its clandestine invasion of parts of the Donbass in 2014 somehow ended Ukrainian statehood in that year. If so, why did Putin invade in 2022 if it wasn't independent anymore?

Oh, wait, you mean... that it was the US... LOL for fuck's sake. I'm sorry but if I'm not going to entertain the delusions of a tranny, I'm not going to entertain yours. It would be EASIER to believe that Rachel Levine is a woman than to believe your bullshit.

Yanukovich was no puppet

He was, he literally fled to Putin the moment people started to protest against him.

he was actually elected

It's possible to be "elected", especially with cheating, and to also be a puppet. Russia had a huge amount of subversive influence in Ukraine at the time and Yanukovich threw his biggest opponent in prison to silence the opposition.

unlike the thugs who were installed at the command of Victoria Nuland.

Except they weren't thugs and they weren't installed, and your only "evidence" is a hacked phone call in which Nuland says she likes the already-favored candidate and thought he would be a good leader. A far cry from what you claim she said.

It is?

Alaska has been part of the US since 1867.

Ukraine has NOT been part of Russia since 1917.

Shit that happened back hundreds of years ago doesn't matter. If you want to play that game, Russia needs to submit to Mongolian rule.

Russia has greater claim to Ukraine than you do to Alaska.

Literally retarded.

Philippines are not American, either ethnically or linguistically.

Ukrainians are not Russian, either ethnically or linguistically.

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– deleted 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0
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– dekachin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Everything you think you know about Putin and Russia was fed to you by a press that lies to you about everything, constantly, all the time, for no reason other than to serve their masters.

True of Russians and maybe Chinese, not of anyone living in a free country.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Oh, so that's why your opinions overlap with those of CNN.

Free country? You live in a country that is going to jail an ex-president for the crime of winning an election, where Jan 6 protesters are jailed in solitary for years for not being violent, where the Attorney General colludes with a national school board to brand its opponents as TERRORISTS.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You live in a country that is going to jail an ex-president for the crime of winning an election

The "country" isn't jailing him, some random libtard prosecutor from New York is.

where Jan 6 protesters are jailed in solitary for years for not being violent

need proof on the "solitary" part, I have followed this story and never heard of anyone being in "solitary". I agree that the Qanon Shaman case was a political witch hunt and he was illegally made an example of.

I hope President DeSantis pardons him or commutes his sentence upon taking office.

where the Attorney General colludes with a national school board to brand its opponents as TERRORISTS.

You keep complaining about Democrats but pretending that it's all of the US acting that way. lol. Know who the enemy is.

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