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– RaceCreatesCulture 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Why would you be laughed at? Ukraine has 0 chance of going anywhere with this war if the USA pulls back its support. It's basically a NATO proxy war. If the USA goes public in pulling back support, many Ukrainian soldiers and international volunteers would abandon their fighting positions because they would also see it as hopeless. Ukraine basically loses. That means, they'd be forced to accept conditions. Russia would be happy with the Donbass area and Ukraine going full neutral. Part of that could be the dismantling of Azov and the formal declaration of "Nazism" as not being tolerated in Ukraine. This actually comes from the USA because it's the CIA that has been pushing a lot of the Nazi sentiment in the Ukraine so if the USA says they're stop with their propaganda, that would be a good position.

There's nothing about this strategy that wouldn't work.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This strategy is unrealistic because almost all of the European leaders would NEVER agree to these concessions.

They view this war as an opportunity to ruin Russia. They don't want an end to the war at the cost of harming their primary objective.

One must operate in reality.

These concessions seem okay to you but it is absolutely DOA in real life.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

USA announces it will leave NATO if Europe doesn't agree.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

A U.S. president saying he will leave NATO is the height of masturbatory theorizing.

It will NEVER happen.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I'm just saying it can be negotiated. Trump has gone down that line of arguing before where he said NATO countries need to step up and pay their fair share.

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