Being treated "normally" comes with certain expectations that one look and act "normally". If how he looks in the video is how he looks in public, I'm not confident I would consider those expectations met.
He's of course under no obligation to care what I think, but perhaps he should expect that some people won't treat him "normally".
I guess a key difference here is "wants" vs "expects". Like someone else said in this thread, he's not demanding we give him respect under threat, he's asking politely.
My entire life the gays were always "asking politely", yet whenever someone said "no" then "wants" became "expects"; and a law making that "no" illegal soon followed. So I'm skeptical of that.
But even if I accepted it, a lot of behaviors shouldn't be treated "normally". If a man abused his wife and children, would we respect him just because he "asked politely" to be treated normally instead of "demanding" it? Or would we think there was something wrong with him for even entertaining the notion that what he was doing was "normal"?
The latter was the norm for homosexuality in my lifetime.
The guy in this video is pushing back against the gays that you are talking about.
as for respect, there is a world of difference between abusing your wife and children (bringing at least two people to harm) and having a sexual preference for men as a man. The former is definitely inexcusable because Innocents get hurt, so I would even go as far as to say anyone who treats that as normal is a bad person. The ladder, however, brings nobody to harm so long as all relationships and activities are consensual between all of the adults involved. It might never be statistically normal, but I see no problem in treating it as benign or socially normal.
I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
Being treated "normally" comes with certain expectations that one look and act "normally". If how he looks in the video is how he looks in public, I'm not confident I would consider those expectations met.
He's of course under no obligation to care what I think, but perhaps he should expect that some people won't treat him "normally".
From a distance he just looks like one o them dang old hippies that need to get sent to 'Nam. I might give him the stink eye but wouldn't harass him.
He looks like a mid-00s emo chick to me. I'd be polite but have a chuckle about it when he was out of earshot.
I guess a key difference here is "wants" vs "expects". Like someone else said in this thread, he's not demanding we give him respect under threat, he's asking politely.
That earns respect in my book.
My entire life the gays were always "asking politely", yet whenever someone said "no" then "wants" became "expects"; and a law making that "no" illegal soon followed. So I'm skeptical of that.
But even if I accepted it, a lot of behaviors shouldn't be treated "normally". If a man abused his wife and children, would we respect him just because he "asked politely" to be treated normally instead of "demanding" it? Or would we think there was something wrong with him for even entertaining the notion that what he was doing was "normal"?
The latter was the norm for homosexuality in my lifetime.
The guy in this video is pushing back against the gays that you are talking about.
as for respect, there is a world of difference between abusing your wife and children (bringing at least two people to harm) and having a sexual preference for men as a man. The former is definitely inexcusable because Innocents get hurt, so I would even go as far as to say anyone who treats that as normal is a bad person. The ladder, however, brings nobody to harm so long as all relationships and activities are consensual between all of the adults involved. It might never be statistically normal, but I see no problem in treating it as benign or socially normal.
I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
The guy in the video is the foot in the door that let the rest of them in.