I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
therein lies the root of pretty much all of the social problems we are facing right now. everything is either right or wrong, to be encouraged or discouraged, positive or negative, light and dark, etc etc. Nothing can just be.
I reject the premise that "normalization" has to be coupled with encouragement. things like playing football in high school are normal, but I wouldn't encourage it on any of my friends given the rate of injury that sport has. that doesn't mean I go out and start denouncing how evil it is because the people who enjoy it obviously enjoy it, and they are not hurting me or anyone else in the process.
At the same time, just because I don't actively can't paint against high school football doesn't mean that I fully endorse it or encourage it.
This is my view on things like diversity, LGBT shit, etc. So long as they are benign, I have no beef with them. It's only when people start hurting others or oppressing others in the name of these movements that I start to take issue.
Things can't "just be" because if someone judges a behavior that has been "normalized" then the people engaging in that behavior ask (then demand) that they not be judged.
Then once people stop judging a behavior, why wouldn't those who engage in it want more people to join in? If you enjoy a thing, you usually want to share that enjoyment with others.
People who think football is good encourage it, people who think diversity is good encourage it, people who think gay sex is good encourage it. If those people happen to be teachers at a school, who are they going to encourage? And if the teacher encouraging gay sex is told to stop: "Why are you singling me out? You let the teacher encourage the kids to play football! Stop judging me!"
If you don't want this to happen, then you discourage a behavior and punish those who attempt to encourage it. And when someone says "stop judging me!" you answer "no" and feel no guilt about it.
As for football, we'll probably see a widespread discouragement of playing football in American high schools before we see a widespread discouragement of gay sex. And the people who enjoy it will say "stop judging me!" and those doing the discouraging will answer "no" and feel no guilt about it.
I don't like that this is the way things seem to operate, but it seems to be how they do. And I'd rather face reality than fight it.
No it's a very basic observation that people respond to feedback, be it positive or negative. And in the absence of feedback, people drift toward their own tendencies; and those tendencies can change over time in the continued absence of feedback.
I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
therein lies the root of pretty much all of the social problems we are facing right now. everything is either right or wrong, to be encouraged or discouraged, positive or negative, light and dark, etc etc. Nothing can just be.
I reject the premise that "normalization" has to be coupled with encouragement. things like playing football in high school are normal, but I wouldn't encourage it on any of my friends given the rate of injury that sport has. that doesn't mean I go out and start denouncing how evil it is because the people who enjoy it obviously enjoy it, and they are not hurting me or anyone else in the process.
At the same time, just because I don't actively can't paint against high school football doesn't mean that I fully endorse it or encourage it.
This is my view on things like diversity, LGBT shit, etc. So long as they are benign, I have no beef with them. It's only when people start hurting others or oppressing others in the name of these movements that I start to take issue.
Things can't "just be" because if someone judges a behavior that has been "normalized" then the people engaging in that behavior ask (then demand) that they not be judged.
Then once people stop judging a behavior, why wouldn't those who engage in it want more people to join in? If you enjoy a thing, you usually want to share that enjoyment with others.
People who think football is good encourage it, people who think diversity is good encourage it, people who think gay sex is good encourage it. If those people happen to be teachers at a school, who are they going to encourage? And if the teacher encouraging gay sex is told to stop: "Why are you singling me out? You let the teacher encourage the kids to play football! Stop judging me!"
If you don't want this to happen, then you discourage a behavior and punish those who attempt to encourage it. And when someone says "stop judging me!" you answer "no" and feel no guilt about it.
As for football, we'll probably see a widespread discouragement of playing football in American high schools before we see a widespread discouragement of gay sex. And the people who enjoy it will say "stop judging me!" and those doing the discouraging will answer "no" and feel no guilt about it.
I don't like that this is the way things seem to operate, but it seems to be how they do. And I'd rather face reality than fight it.
this is the same mentality as that "everything is political" bullshit
No it's a very basic observation that people respond to feedback, be it positive or negative. And in the absence of feedback, people drift toward their own tendencies; and those tendencies can change over time in the continued absence of feedback.