I guess a key difference here is "wants" vs "expects". Like someone else said in this thread, he's not demanding we give him respect under threat, he's asking politely.
My entire life the gays were always "asking politely", yet whenever someone said "no" then "wants" became "expects"; and a law making that "no" illegal soon followed. So I'm skeptical of that.
But even if I accepted it, a lot of behaviors shouldn't be treated "normally". If a man abused his wife and children, would we respect him just because he "asked politely" to be treated normally instead of "demanding" it? Or would we think there was something wrong with him for even entertaining the notion that what he was doing was "normal"?
The latter was the norm for homosexuality in my lifetime.
The guy in this video is pushing back against the gays that you are talking about.
as for respect, there is a world of difference between abusing your wife and children (bringing at least two people to harm) and having a sexual preference for men as a man. The former is definitely inexcusable because Innocents get hurt, so I would even go as far as to say anyone who treats that as normal is a bad person. The ladder, however, brings nobody to harm so long as all relationships and activities are consensual between all of the adults involved. It might never be statistically normal, but I see no problem in treating it as benign or socially normal.
The guy in the video is trying to stem the tide, while at the same time securing his own freedom. It would be one thing if this was 2008, but we are on the other side of the massive explosion in the pride movement. Now that the LGBTs are running free and able to do whatever they want with the full endorsements of the elites etc, anyone holding this guy's position is a counterrevolutionary to them.
I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
therein lies the root of pretty much all of the social problems we are facing right now. everything is either right or wrong, to be encouraged or discouraged, positive or negative, light and dark, etc etc. Nothing can just be.
I reject the premise that "normalization" has to be coupled with encouragement. things like playing football in high school are normal, but I wouldn't encourage it on any of my friends given the rate of injury that sport has. that doesn't mean I go out and start denouncing how evil it is because the people who enjoy it obviously enjoy it, and they are not hurting me or anyone else in the process.
At the same time, just because I don't actively can't paint against high school football doesn't mean that I fully endorse it or encourage it.
This is my view on things like diversity, LGBT shit, etc. So long as they are benign, I have no beef with them. It's only when people start hurting others or oppressing others in the name of these movements that I start to take issue.
I guess a key difference here is "wants" vs "expects". Like someone else said in this thread, he's not demanding we give him respect under threat, he's asking politely.
That earns respect in my book.
My entire life the gays were always "asking politely", yet whenever someone said "no" then "wants" became "expects"; and a law making that "no" illegal soon followed. So I'm skeptical of that.
But even if I accepted it, a lot of behaviors shouldn't be treated "normally". If a man abused his wife and children, would we respect him just because he "asked politely" to be treated normally instead of "demanding" it? Or would we think there was something wrong with him for even entertaining the notion that what he was doing was "normal"?
The latter was the norm for homosexuality in my lifetime.
The guy in this video is pushing back against the gays that you are talking about.
as for respect, there is a world of difference between abusing your wife and children (bringing at least two people to harm) and having a sexual preference for men as a man. The former is definitely inexcusable because Innocents get hurt, so I would even go as far as to say anyone who treats that as normal is a bad person. The ladder, however, brings nobody to harm so long as all relationships and activities are consensual between all of the adults involved. It might never be statistically normal, but I see no problem in treating it as benign or socially normal.
The guy in the video is the foot in the door that let the rest of them in.
The guy in the video is trying to stem the tide, while at the same time securing his own freedom. It would be one thing if this was 2008, but we are on the other side of the massive explosion in the pride movement. Now that the LGBTs are running free and able to do whatever they want with the full endorsements of the elites etc, anyone holding this guy's position is a counterrevolutionary to them.
I do not accept the premise that consent is the sole determinant as to whether or not something ought to be socially encouraged (which is ultimately what "normalization" is).
therein lies the root of pretty much all of the social problems we are facing right now. everything is either right or wrong, to be encouraged or discouraged, positive or negative, light and dark, etc etc. Nothing can just be.
I reject the premise that "normalization" has to be coupled with encouragement. things like playing football in high school are normal, but I wouldn't encourage it on any of my friends given the rate of injury that sport has. that doesn't mean I go out and start denouncing how evil it is because the people who enjoy it obviously enjoy it, and they are not hurting me or anyone else in the process.
At the same time, just because I don't actively can't paint against high school football doesn't mean that I fully endorse it or encourage it.
This is my view on things like diversity, LGBT shit, etc. So long as they are benign, I have no beef with them. It's only when people start hurting others or oppressing others in the name of these movements that I start to take issue.