I used to think people who said this were over reacting but after the last Jedi I really started seeing this. Especially when I saw how it’s nearly impossible to make something that appeals to boys/men now. I mean you would think a He-Man reboot is a slam dunk for men who watched it and their sons.
I've never gone though the 5 stages of grief so fucking fast as when that movie ended, and I managed to go through all 5 of them in just the credits for ME3!
This seems to be a common occurrence. I watched TFA in theaters, TLJ as a rental (remember renting movies?), and have never and have no intention to watch TROS.
TFA I went with my dad and brother and either before or after we spoke about seeing the others together when they came out.
I ended up seeing TLJ in the cinema alone, and while I have no idea if my brother has seen TROS I know my dad has, but he's quite literally a retired boomer with more time and money than sense so inevitably ends up seeing really shit productions because advertising campaigns don't reveal just how shit things are.
That happened for me, but with TFA. I watched TLJ in the vain hope that it might have just been a nightmare, but no, it was real. I have not, and will not, watch TROS, because from what I have heard, it is somehow worse than both of them.
Star Wars, the center of my childhood, is nothing more than a faded memory to me. And I know exactly who to blame for why.
The sooner viewers realised how badly it was a remake of ANH and returned the franchise to pre-ESB status quo the better but for a lot of people they were too giddy on a new film being out.
As time went on more and more criticism was brought towards it and the later films had a combination of both increasing said criticism for the trilogy as a whole but also strangely enshrining TFA as "not the shit one" from the Sequels.
TLA threw a lot of things out the window like Snoke, Rey's background, Luke, basic physics in space when it came to arcing blaster fire in space... and even simple time keeping since everything Finn goes off to do [is not only literally the plot to Spaceballs with parking ticket violations and all, but] takes place within the 18 hour window given for the main "Rebel" ship's fuel reserves. This also included the several days that Rey spent "training" with Luke.
Which made anything TROS was going to attempt even harder, so a lot of the crap Rian did in TLA was ignored by JJ. Not that there was a coherent overarching plot in place to start with.
Original films could get away with that, it was an new, ongoing story development which had bumps it would inevitably hit and yet still followed a trilogy format well enough of the first film being contained enough no others would need to follow it.
If "Star Wars" [Episode IV: A New Hope] was the only film ever made it would still work well enough as a standalone. The ending has the good guys win, the Death Star is destroyed, there's a parade where the main characters get medals, cheery music plays and everyone is happy and smiling - despite the fact the galaxy is still ruled by the Empire.
Empire stomps all over the good guys from the start and leaves them in a worse state than they started with Han captured, the Rebels scattered, Luke now missing a hand and traumatised by his encounter with Vader on Bespin. But that's because there was a plan [RotJ] to still resolve the story and tie up loose ends so having the good guys lose meant the story wasn't ending on a negative, it was just the Second Act before the heroes would turn things around.
Quite a few trilogies end up doing this and while it's possible many copy what Star Wars did the basic idea is well establishes storytelling tool.
As for the Prequels they could only ever move towards the start of A New Hope and while again they follow the same format of the first film destroying some big space structure, a parade with cheery music, the loss of a mentor, and a promise of future things, the Prequels were still confined hard by the fact they could only ever tell a story that ends leading up to ANH. AotC much like Empire ends on a somber note with the Clone Army forming and leaving on early model Star Destroyers to the Imperial March showing the audience that the Empire is coming. RotS goes hard on things ending badly for the good guys but again that's because it needs to given the setting of ANH.
Rogue One worked well for this reason because while it did tell a story not many might have known, the EU had done the Death Star plans capture a few times, it still remained confined by the narrative needed to set up ANH. Although there are still a few gripes in places such as just how soon before ANH it ended up being, and personally I don't think the first Vader scene was needed on Mustafar. If he had only been in the hallway it would have made his appearance far, far more horrifying.
Disney Sequels however just made things one film at a time and either ignored or pissed all over previous material.
I used to think people who said this were over reacting but after the last Jedi I really started seeing this. Especially when I saw how it’s nearly impossible to make something that appeals to boys/men now. I mean you would think a He-Man reboot is a slam dunk for men who watched it and their sons.
The success of Top Gun Maverick terrified a lot of the faggot anti-male Hollywood execs.
Wouldn’t surprise me
I've never gone though the 5 stages of grief so fucking fast as when that movie ended, and I managed to go through all 5 of them in just the credits for ME3!
Edit: I've still not seen TROS. And I never will.
That movie was the beginning of my current “I’m strictly a pre Disney Star Wars fan” mindset. I read the EU books/comics and watch the old stuff
This seems to be a common occurrence. I watched TFA in theaters, TLJ as a rental (remember renting movies?), and have never and have no intention to watch TROS.
TFA I went with my dad and brother and either before or after we spoke about seeing the others together when they came out.
I ended up seeing TLJ in the cinema alone, and while I have no idea if my brother has seen TROS I know my dad has, but he's quite literally a retired boomer with more time and money than sense so inevitably ends up seeing really shit productions because advertising campaigns don't reveal just how shit things are.
That happened for me, but with TFA. I watched TLJ in the vain hope that it might have just been a nightmare, but no, it was real. I have not, and will not, watch TROS, because from what I have heard, it is somehow worse than both of them.
Star Wars, the center of my childhood, is nothing more than a faded memory to me. And I know exactly who to blame for why.
The sooner viewers realised how badly it was a remake of ANH and returned the franchise to pre-ESB status quo the better but for a lot of people they were too giddy on a new film being out.
As time went on more and more criticism was brought towards it and the later films had a combination of both increasing said criticism for the trilogy as a whole but also strangely enshrining TFA as "not the shit one" from the Sequels.
TLA threw a lot of things out the window like Snoke, Rey's background, Luke, basic physics in space when it came to arcing blaster fire in space... and even simple time keeping since everything Finn goes off to do [is not only literally the plot to Spaceballs with parking ticket violations and all, but] takes place within the 18 hour window given for the main "Rebel" ship's fuel reserves. This also included the several days that Rey spent "training" with Luke.
Which made anything TROS was going to attempt even harder, so a lot of the crap Rian did in TLA was ignored by JJ. Not that there was a coherent overarching plot in place to start with.
Original films could get away with that, it was an new, ongoing story development which had bumps it would inevitably hit and yet still followed a trilogy format well enough of the first film being contained enough no others would need to follow it.
If "Star Wars" [Episode IV: A New Hope] was the only film ever made it would still work well enough as a standalone. The ending has the good guys win, the Death Star is destroyed, there's a parade where the main characters get medals, cheery music plays and everyone is happy and smiling - despite the fact the galaxy is still ruled by the Empire.
Empire stomps all over the good guys from the start and leaves them in a worse state than they started with Han captured, the Rebels scattered, Luke now missing a hand and traumatised by his encounter with Vader on Bespin. But that's because there was a plan [RotJ] to still resolve the story and tie up loose ends so having the good guys lose meant the story wasn't ending on a negative, it was just the Second Act before the heroes would turn things around.
Quite a few trilogies end up doing this and while it's possible many copy what Star Wars did the basic idea is well establishes storytelling tool.
As for the Prequels they could only ever move towards the start of A New Hope and while again they follow the same format of the first film destroying some big space structure, a parade with cheery music, the loss of a mentor, and a promise of future things, the Prequels were still confined hard by the fact they could only ever tell a story that ends leading up to ANH. AotC much like Empire ends on a somber note with the Clone Army forming and leaving on early model Star Destroyers to the Imperial March showing the audience that the Empire is coming. RotS goes hard on things ending badly for the good guys but again that's because it needs to given the setting of ANH.
Rogue One worked well for this reason because while it did tell a story not many might have known, the EU had done the Death Star plans capture a few times, it still remained confined by the narrative needed to set up ANH. Although there are still a few gripes in places such as just how soon before ANH it ended up being, and personally I don't think the first Vader scene was needed on Mustafar. If he had only been in the hallway it would have made his appearance far, far more horrifying.
Disney Sequels however just made things one film at a time and either ignored or pissed all over previous material.
Here is a trailer for the He-Man reboot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xfc0RDzruU
Pretty much