From an article on a dissenter within the genital mutilation mill...
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61% of American women identify strongly or moderately as feminists.
(Pew Research, 2020)
Feminism is cancerous, yes. But the shit you spout goes far beyond recognizing ideological enemies and into collectivism based on immutable traits that people are born into, which is illogical.
This sort of argument against TheImp is tiresome, because it results in him moving the goal post and going on a different tangent.
But now, he made a strategic error.
You brilliantly challenged him with "Women are not a hivemind."
He took the bait that you so astutely laid out for him and countered with tangible numbers showing women do behave like a hive when it comes to political leaning.
This is your opportunity to crush him and prove him wrong with ironclad factual falsifiable data.
Stick to your original argument, don't let him distract you.
Go!
I don't need to do anything else to prove that post wrong, he just footshot himself. Dude talks about women like they are literally all an interconnected slime monster and then posts "61%". Which proves my point entirely.
Why is it not okay to play their game against them?
Because leftism is wrong. Recognizing the individual as distinct from the group is logically and morally correct. Collectivism is a simple ideological tool for authoritarians. Collectivists are typically moronic shock troops used for sociopaths to gain power.
See the rise of communism or nearly any other authoritarian ideology. Judge people based on their actions and choices, that is fine. Profiling based on demographic can be a useful tool. But pure collectivist behavior is for brainlet tools. And I mean tool in the literal sense - people that fall for that shit are puppets.
Well put. A lot of politics these days consists of being shitty and then saying it’s okay because the other side was shitty in an equivalent way, while nevertheless reserving the right to call out the same behavior as bad the next time the other side does it. People can wax tough about realpolitik all they want, but I’m not playing the game if it’s two different bad guys opposing each other. One side has to do things the right way, even if it might be more useful or convenient to do things the wrong way to score a point or make a gain.
And I’m with you, ultimately, the right way is treating people as individuals, both for plaudits and accountability, and never expecting, insisting, or requiring everyone to “represent” whatever group someone else thinks they belong to.
I assume that as an individualist you have major objections to Zionism.
How is playing it like this in any way productive, effective, or efficient? All it does is make you and everyone around you look like a damn fool. You could try and fine-tune your focus so it's not such a senseless mess.
If that stat was 91%, you might have some rebuttal there to "women are not a hivemind", but the best you had to offer was a 10% swing past 50-50.
A D+22 state is a solid blue state, it would be the bluest state in the entire union by quite a margin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index
Most people agree VT, CA etc are progressive shitholes with far less of a margin of support.
Ergo, women being feminist+22 (61/39) means they should be assumed to be feminist in the majority of cases.