That's the whole point though: he manages to take a bunch of things that most people (here) generally agree with, and make you absolutely sick of hearing about them.
Why is “he’s a dude who hates women” so impossible to you weirdos?
I'll meet you at he's an autistic dude who hates women, how about that?
But, seriously, as someone else said, the issue isn't the core of his arguments (with which I somewhat often agree) it's his insane conclusions and logic. That's why so many people obsess about him here; he's made himself into a character/caricature.
I wish he'd get out of his own way more; he does have important things to say, and things many of us would/do agree with, as you say. But he so often throws some random aspect on that just makes the whole thing ridiculous. He'll blame a woman who is either tangentially related, not connected at all, or not the actual boss. Or he'll go on his spiel about how all women want to genocide all men.
If he'd just chill out a bit he'd get better results in his preaching. But he literally can't get out of his own way.
I do agree people take their stuff too far though. I don't agree with the bullying, and I don't agree with the kneejerk and undeserved downvotes. I'll downvote him sometimes...but never just for being Imp, and I also upvote him on other comments.
I think he has valid points at times, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to make fun of him when he looks up onlyfans, or he and antonio go at it when one of them gets salty about something
Why is “he’s a dude who hates women” so impossible to you weirdos?
Because I've hated women longer than he's been alive, been in every movement of anti-woman/feminism that has existed in that time, and seen millions of "dude who hates women" in that time, and none are as autisticaly annoying as him.
In fact, he has helped set back people accepting half of those things you listed by being so unlikable that people will be slower to accept them just to not be associated with him.
But considering you put all that weight on him as the "one guy" clearly he has successfully managed to drown out the rest of us making far more level headed arguments in the same tree. So there is another reason to hate him, even his defenders accidentally admit the problem with him in their attempts to do so.
Because the various "Manosphere" movements have one thing in common, everyone comes there through some specific trauma. The reason why the "red pill" is used is because a major shock is required to jolt your system out of the basic instinct that is pro-women. Bad mother, bad relationship, divorce, child court, etc.
So the reason people don't accept it, is because he dodges that question of "why" everytime. Something obsessive conspiracy nuts in every other circle are always more than willing to offer, their eye opener. So people fill in the blanks themselves, because nobody is that obsessive without a reason.
Personally, I don't think any of those random accusations are correct either, I assume he is just absurdly autistic and caught in a feedback loop of self justification. But I see why they suspect them.
I can't tell if he wants to get dominated by women in bed, or he's gay.
People make fun of him less for the content of his arguments and more for the weapons grade autism dripping from his posts.
That's the whole point though: he manages to take a bunch of things that most people (here) generally agree with, and make you absolutely sick of hearing about them.
I'll meet you at he's an autistic dude who hates women, how about that?
But, seriously, as someone else said, the issue isn't the core of his arguments (with which I somewhat often agree) it's his insane conclusions and logic. That's why so many people obsess about him here; he's made himself into a character/caricature.
I wish he'd get out of his own way more; he does have important things to say, and things many of us would/do agree with, as you say. But he so often throws some random aspect on that just makes the whole thing ridiculous. He'll blame a woman who is either tangentially related, not connected at all, or not the actual boss. Or he'll go on his spiel about how all women want to genocide all men.
If he'd just chill out a bit he'd get better results in his preaching. But he literally can't get out of his own way.
I do agree people take their stuff too far though. I don't agree with the bullying, and I don't agree with the kneejerk and undeserved downvotes. I'll downvote him sometimes...but never just for being Imp, and I also upvote him on other comments.
Because it's funny.
I think he has valid points at times, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to make fun of him when he looks up onlyfans, or he and antonio go at it when one of them gets salty about something
Because I've hated women longer than he's been alive, been in every movement of anti-woman/feminism that has existed in that time, and seen millions of "dude who hates women" in that time, and none are as autisticaly annoying as him.
In fact, he has helped set back people accepting half of those things you listed by being so unlikable that people will be slower to accept them just to not be associated with him.
But considering you put all that weight on him as the "one guy" clearly he has successfully managed to drown out the rest of us making far more level headed arguments in the same tree. So there is another reason to hate him, even his defenders accidentally admit the problem with him in their attempts to do so.
Because the various "Manosphere" movements have one thing in common, everyone comes there through some specific trauma. The reason why the "red pill" is used is because a major shock is required to jolt your system out of the basic instinct that is pro-women. Bad mother, bad relationship, divorce, child court, etc.
So the reason people don't accept it, is because he dodges that question of "why" everytime. Something obsessive conspiracy nuts in every other circle are always more than willing to offer, their eye opener. So people fill in the blanks themselves, because nobody is that obsessive without a reason.
Personally, I don't think any of those random accusations are correct either, I assume he is just absurdly autistic and caught in a feedback loop of self justification. But I see why they suspect them.
Or both. The world may never know.