Isn't that pretty-much the desired effect on chronically depressed people?
Doctor insisted I take those and they didn't improve mood much. They dulled the lows a bit. I don't have regular "good mood highs" so I wouldn't have noticed if it dulled them.
Seems perfectly in line with the "it made a barely statistically-significant difference over placebo" research results. Positive results are so weak compared to placebo, it's a joke, borderline a scam.
And there are side effects.
Daily exercise was much more effective. I still dislike exercise very much, it still hurts every day, but I do it anyway.
I’m becoming somewhat “nihilistic” in my personal relationships, now. I just… Don’t even care. I try, and if the other person doesn’t want to play their part/isn’t receptive, I just forget about ‘em (or try to)…
It’s not quite the same thing, but it’s the only way I’ve found to deal with being repeatedly fucked over by people, ha…
I won’t blame people, anymore, for their actions, but I also just… Won’t pretend to care, if they clearly don’t, or have decided not to.
I’ve just grown really tired of putting in excess effort into that stuff, for frequently very little, if any, reward…
But of course this goes both ways. Undeniably.
Unfortunately reality is that we seem to be living through a time of unparalleled selfishness, and it’s very rare to be able to “break through that” enough to form a genuine connection with somebody, and to keep that connection “alive” and “healthy”…
Right now, I would rather work on myself, first, before I even try to put any “special effort” on that front. And that goes for a lot of my friendships, too. Not just relationships.
But yeah, all in all, I think you’re right, and I’m yet to find a better way to handle it, and accept it, where possible, than that…
For me, it’s trying to find the “little wins”, and appreciate them. Which sounds like a gambler’s mentality, but I’m just talking basic shit like:
“Ok, today I got this thing done.
I actually left the house.
I actually organized that thing I meant to do.
I actually messaged an old friend.” Or whatever it may be.
This still doesn’t allow me to sleep at night. It still doesn’t make it ok. But it’s very much all I have, and all that is really keeping me going, at the moment…
Exercise is definitely good, but, for me at least, with an illness that gives me terrible fatigue, as well as the mental stuff, unfortunately it doesn’t really seem to help my depression much afterwards…
Man do I feel that exercise struggle. It's just another one of the small difficulties you gotta endure to avoid the big ones. Meanwhile, I've got gym rat friends who say they get a workout high, and I'm half-convinced they're just spiking their water bottles.
Isn't that pretty-much the desired effect on chronically depressed people?
Doctor insisted I take those and they didn't improve mood much. They dulled the lows a bit. I don't have regular "good mood highs" so I wouldn't have noticed if it dulled them.
Seems perfectly in line with the "it made a barely statistically-significant difference over placebo" research results. Positive results are so weak compared to placebo, it's a joke, borderline a scam.
And there are side effects.
Daily exercise was much more effective. I still dislike exercise very much, it still hurts every day, but I do it anyway.
Nothing about the study is in any way surprising. It is what most people already assumed.
For me it was exercise, building things myself and finding religion after being agnostic for most of my life.
I very much doubt that claim
I may be wrong but it was just what I assumed and never heard anyone argue against it.
The amount of people using antidpressants suggests that most people don't assume that they don't help.
You have to consider who you argue these things with. I mean you won't find anyone hyping these things here, for example.
I’m becoming somewhat “nihilistic” in my personal relationships, now. I just… Don’t even care. I try, and if the other person doesn’t want to play their part/isn’t receptive, I just forget about ‘em (or try to)…
It’s not quite the same thing, but it’s the only way I’ve found to deal with being repeatedly fucked over by people, ha…
I think this is the only way to handle it. People are shit, and often not worth it.
Unfortunately, yeah.
I won’t blame people, anymore, for their actions, but I also just… Won’t pretend to care, if they clearly don’t, or have decided not to.
I’ve just grown really tired of putting in excess effort into that stuff, for frequently very little, if any, reward…
But of course this goes both ways. Undeniably.
Unfortunately reality is that we seem to be living through a time of unparalleled selfishness, and it’s very rare to be able to “break through that” enough to form a genuine connection with somebody, and to keep that connection “alive” and “healthy”…
Right now, I would rather work on myself, first, before I even try to put any “special effort” on that front. And that goes for a lot of my friendships, too. Not just relationships.
But yeah, all in all, I think you’re right, and I’m yet to find a better way to handle it, and accept it, where possible, than that…
For me, it’s trying to find the “little wins”, and appreciate them. Which sounds like a gambler’s mentality, but I’m just talking basic shit like:
“Ok, today I got this thing done. I actually left the house. I actually organized that thing I meant to do. I actually messaged an old friend.” Or whatever it may be.
This still doesn’t allow me to sleep at night. It still doesn’t make it ok. But it’s very much all I have, and all that is really keeping me going, at the moment…
Exercise is definitely good, but, for me at least, with an illness that gives me terrible fatigue, as well as the mental stuff, unfortunately it doesn’t really seem to help my depression much afterwards…
But I’m trying.
Man do I feel that exercise struggle. It's just another one of the small difficulties you gotta endure to avoid the big ones. Meanwhile, I've got gym rat friends who say they get a workout high, and I'm half-convinced they're just spiking their water bottles.
I've found lifting heavy to be the exercise that really does it for me in regards to mood.