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Everyone’s bias against the Daily Wire is affecting their judgement. They’re swallowing Crowder’s side of the story hook, line and sinker.
The DW terms document is pretty standard fare. Crowder sat on the document for four months before releasing it. He registered the “StopTheCon.com” domain a month before this blew up. He secretly recorded a conversation with a friend a week before releasing his video. He has a history of enforcing contracts on people to shut them up (see: NotGayJared, Devin Tienken). Nobody from either DW or Blaze has come out and said their voice is being silenced or suppressed like Crowder claims they are doing. Crowders claims about independent conservative voices being silenced can’t be substantiated at all, nor can his claims of “Big Con” colluding with big tech.
The facts just do not add up.
I wouldn’t consider myself a fan of DW, but they are actually successful at pushing back against the Left, and you can’t argue with results.
Crowder, you don’t like how DW runs their business? Fine, but don’t air your grievances in public and burn bridges along the way just because you don’t like their business model. Don’t declare a crusade against “Big Con” and big tech and then whine and complain when another company won’t unconditionally support your crusade. Instead, stand on your own two feet and prove your business model and prove you’re more effective than those you’re attacking. Stop being a drama queen.
I didn't know until this thread that DW got in bed with Black Rifle Coffee.
On that point alone I will dismiss them. And I actually paid for a month's sub to watch some show with JP last year.
Wakey wakey, motherfucker.
BRC has members that have donated money to Biden's campaign, has thrown Kyle Rittenhouse under the bus, and put out some woke ass bullshit PR article.
BRCC founders Hafer and Best are "former" CIA operatives, that alone should make everyone suspicious of the company. BRCC is probably a CIA money laundering/drug smuggling operation, and if it tricks stupid boomer cons into giving them their money, then that's a bonus in their eyes.
That’s totally irrelevant, but totally fine.
People are just being tribal and picking sides based on emotions, not evaluating this situation with any level of objectivity. Just because DW has its own problems doesn’t mean Crowder is right. Crowder is a performer who knows how to create and milk controversy. He might honestly believe he’s on a righteous crusade but it’s clear this is orchestrated for maximum attention grabbing to his own benefit.
If you want to hear a good, balanced take on the Crowder vs. Daily Wire situation listen to Mark Dice, Gavin McInnes, Bill Whittle or even Tim Pool or Frei and Barnes. Pretty much everyone else is picking sides based on emotion or ignorance.
Starting from the position that any talking mouth is a waste of space.
In this situation you have Crowder, which is one, and on the other you have a corpo. A corpo that wants you to be ok with the same liberal censorship they purport to be fighting.
There is no need for beanie approved nuance from talking heads.
Crowder’s livelihood and business model are almost entirely dependent on YouTube, far more so than the Daily Wire. Crowder literally self-censors so he can remain live on YouTube. There is zero difference between the constraints that Crowder puts on himself and the constraints DW were proposing. DW even embraced the idea of a special “Piss Off YouTube” segment hosted on their platform to avoid censorship.
This entire thing is preposterous on its face. Crowder has no reasonable case to back up his brash claims or unprofessional behavior.
His entire fucking point is that Daily Wire is predatory and is making it impossible for rising stars to come up.
His entire first message was directed at THOSE people, telling them to NOT SIGN these predatory contracts.
Garbage neo-cons like you only think this is about money and business, because, y'know, you're garbage. You'd funnel a gallon of your own cum down your mother's throat if it made you a buck and got you a new lifted truck.
Such a stupid, brain-dead comment. Hurling insults at me simply for disagreeing with you and making accusations when you don’t even know me.
There’s zero evidence the Daily Wire is making it hard for rising stars, you’re just taking Crowder’s word for it.
Michael Knowles literally rose through the ranks within the company to become one of their primary content creators. They literally just plucked Brett Cooper out of nowhere and made her a star. They do collabs with conservatives all over the “Right-O-Sphere”. Can you name a single rising star that DW has silenced or suppressed or harmed in any way? Whose business is it who the DW decides to help or not anyways? They don’t owe Crowder or anyone else anything. What an idiotic and naive perspective to have.
You essentially called everybody stupid rubes in your top-level comment, when many of them actually read the contract and saw for themselves the obvious of how crap and exploitive it is in so many ways. Then you got upset that they called you dumb for swallowing DW's take hook, line and sinker -- if you weren't so sensitive you'd appreciate the irony of that.
Then you read my comment, got upset that I disagreed with you and decided to lash out by accusing me of being insecure.
See, writing fiction is easy.
Actually thinking and conversing with people about things must be too difficult. Much easier to hurl insults and write fanfic in your head about people you disagree with.
Lauren Chen did a livestream today- she's been contracted w/ CRTV/Blaze, got offers from DW & Crowder. She said she's never seen or heard of those terms anywhere.
It's not standard, it doesn't even seem to be standard at Daily Wire. And Crowder was their "friend"
Bill Whittle actually worked with Crowder back at PJTV, and has done independent work with both Daily Wire and Crowder. He disagrees.
So does Viva Frei who is a lawyer with a small amount of experience in this space.
So does Jack Psobiac and Mike Cernovich.
So does Tim Pool.
So Candice Owens for what that’s worth.
Heck, Crowder himself believes it’s the standard because that’s the entire point behind “Stop Big Con”.
It’s besides the point anyways. It wasn’t a contract, it was a terms sheet. If you can’t arrive at a contract that both agree with, you don’t sign it. That’s all there is to it. What you DON’T do is air your dirty laundry.
Crowder’s little recording backfired, and rightly so. It was an underhanded thing to do.
You're getting buried but you're absolutely right. Also, Steven Crowder is a painfully unfunny knob with a squeaky voice.
It's to be expected. The dissident right are often just as tribalistic as the dissident left. This is what happens when people become desperate and angry.
I'm also realizing there's somewhat of a "cult of personality" built up around Crowder that will run to his defense no matter what he does. It's not a good look.
Crowder is definitely more anti-establishment than the Daily Wire, but that doesn't make him right by default.