Andrew Tate's recent arrest makes this as good of a time as any to post some thoughts I've had about him for a while, as well as some new ones about his arrest.
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It always seemed like he was a bigger deal to the feminists and the left than he was to us. Their constant sperging out about him felt completely out of proportion to how much the Manosphere actually liked or respected him. Maybe it's the specific spaces I hang out in but actual Manosphere guys largely saw him as a grifter whose 15 minutes of fame was running out. There are far better content creators in the Manosphere than this guy. That's not to dismiss Tate's very real and very large following, but that seems to mostly consist of younger guys who are very new to pro-male movements and spaces.
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Considering the cam whore scam he was running it wouldn't shock me if the human trafficking allegations against him are true. I'd need to see actual proof before I believe them, but they're not as crazy as allegations against regime opponents often are. That said, this is the classic playbook that the regime uses to get rid of inconvenient people. They've been trying to shut him up for months, and combined with the circumstances of his arrest (right after he crossed the patron saint of the left's climate change scam) the arrest is suspicious as fuck regardless of how one feels about the accusations against him.
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Tate is a grifter and a con artist, but maybe instead of talking about Tate we should talk about how our sick anti-male society makes Tate a better male role model than the man bashing crap that the MSM is infected with. When soyciety tells men that they're subhumans and scapegoats them for all past, present, and future problems, any alternative that doesn't do that is going to have a leg up. When an influencer provokes outrage in someone who despises you because of your inate characteristics, you're going to be drawn to that. If an evil movement bent on making your life a living hell hates him he can't be all bad, right? As I said before, there are far better content creators in the Manosphere than Andrew Tate. But here's the thing. As far as our rotten feminist soyciety is concerned those better creators aren't any different than Tate, because they're no more willing to obey their social betters than Tate is. They don't object to Tate specifically. They object to anyone offering men anything better than existing for the sole purpose of being slaves to a pampered and entitled caste that already has every advantage in life. The feminists will never be able to sell men poverty and 3rd class citizenship if those horrible Red Pillers and MGTOWS keep offering them a better life than the eternal misery that feminism promises them.
I never heard him mentioned in the millennial manosphere once until feminists started the screeching about him across MSM.
His fanbase seems to be teenage boys who are thinking about their first cars - I guess it makes them super fucking salty to know that even Gen Z boys, who have been subjected to the heaviest amount of commie brainwashing yet, can still be deprogrammed overnight by a concussed retard playboy pugilist.
Honestly, if libtards had just ignored him he would be forgotten already.
That's the story of pretty much every internet controversy over the last decade, including GG. A lot of these types feed on outrage, and the normie invasion of the internet has made not feeding the troll a lost art. Why ignore the guy who called you a nigger on the internet when you can get that sweet validation from social media likes?
Sorry for the double reply but this point is very important:
This is because even very young boys have an innate knowledge of masculinity and a desire to be masculine. I remember I had an independent streak and the desire to stand on my own two feet (at least in certain contexts) even at the age of 8 or 9. Our feminist soyciety does everything it can to suppress this, but it very rarely ever goes away because it's biologically programmed. That's why it doesn't take much to speak to that part of a young boy's identity, especially if feminism is suppressing it. They instinctively realize that it offers something that they've been missing in their lives.
Andrew Tate penetrated the global mainstream. Comparing him to anyone in the manosphere is ridiculous; he is more influential, by several orders of magnitude, than anyone from that space has ever been.
Is he a grifter? For sure. How many public figures aren’t? But he put a very real dent in the mass feminist indoctrination of young men everywhere.
Yep
What are the allegations against him?
Having lived and partaken of bump n grind while attempting a
businessstart up (failed attempts but you still learn) in eastern europe and africa, high chance that he outsourced the procuring of female talent to some one else. Helps if you know the local language and the local culture to do that.Was the person he outsourced it to shady? No doubt. Did he have any doubts about the walking/talking set pieces? No doubt. Does that sound like hollywood? No doubt.
The allegations against him are going to be bogus. These women volunteer and consent for this type of stuff. Don't believe the simps and soysociety. The women are not victims.
It's sad he's considered a good role model because he is a con artist, as everyone can tell. He has money and he speaks the truth about women though. The way he earned his money insulates him from soyciety. Most men who are honest and hard-working, cannot speak the truth about women or they will lose their livelihood, that's how gynocratic we've become.
I'm with you bro. Its unfortunate that truth needs to come from celebrities to spread, and celebrities are just clowns of a different feather.
Rape and sex trafficking. I'm taking a wait and see approach. They've been wanting to get rid of him since he blew up, so I'll need more than victim playing whores who blame Big Bad Andrew Tate for their bad choices to believe that he's actually guilty.
I think its going to be another Julian Assange situation. They will dive into the murk of compensatory consent and then Cardinal Richelieu him.
Bruh, which pussies in the Manosphere do you talk to? Because people who have actually met the dude knows that he is real. People have actually met Andrew Tate knows that what he espouses, he believes and that he is the real deal.
15 minutes of fame running out? He now has more Rumble subscribers on both his channels than he ever had on Youtube. Every person who has interviewed him, including people like Patrick Bet-David have nothing but good things to say about him.
The only people in the manosphere who hated Tate were people who were actually pussies themselves, or were themselves grifters.
His former cam-girl business was started in the UK.
He made the most of his money in the UK.
His claim to fame in the business were his scripts. Like how all good sales people have sales scripts, he taught all his girls in an almost classroom setting how to get more money out of the men on the line with them with his scripts.
With first time girls he literally unplugged their keyboards and had his sales team type shit for them until the girls learned how to do it themselves.
He was so known in the business that the people who created OnlyFans learned from him about how to do the camming business.
He moved to Romania because (and TheImpossible is going to love this) one of his girls did a false accusation of abuse on him because he tossed her out of the apartment they worked out of due to her starting a fight with another girl when she got drunk. Once the UK police raided the place, they made his life hell due to jealousy. A lesbian UK cop made it her mission to try to ruin his life after the initial case against him went no where
That's why he left for Romania. So a false accusation led to his life almost being ruined, leading to heading to Romania.
Now, if you want to argue the morality of running a camming business, that's different and fine. But to assume someone is trafficking women when OnlyFans exist literally showing that women will volunteer to deprave themselves on camera for less than what Andrew was paying his girls is ignorance at best and just being a hater at worst.
Everyone loves to say this. Outside his shitty forex course he tried to sell in 2014, no one has been able to show what he conned people out of. They throw this label out everywhere, but when you ask them who and what he conned, they can never say. Coffeezilla did a piece on on Hustler's University calling it a scam, but never actually interviewed people who used the product. Personally: I thought that Hustler's University was a beginner's level course that you could easily find information on with some good Google searching, but if HU is a scam, then almost any paid course for anything outside academia is a scam.
Literally the only people I have ever heard mention this guy are leftist.
The serious interviews he gives are actually very interesting, around the behind the scenes of cam whore sites. They're even more fake then you think.
This.
The people who don't like him, and the people who dislike the camwhore/ethot/OnlyFans industry, should be grateful that he's revealing how things actually work behind the scenes.
I have no opinions about the guy, but that's irrelevant — this entire spectacle is fishy as hell.
And if "they" can do this to some as rich as he is (read: can afford expensive lawyers), imagine what they'll do to you if you piss them off in the slightest.
This should just be posted any time someone asks about women.
I personally think women built Tate up purely so they could knock him down like this to instil hopelessness in opponents to their system.
I don't know why people even care about that guy here, he is a "british" "celebrity" and a pornographer and represents everything that is wrong with our civilization. Because the left hates him? He's very much a leftist as the rest of the pornographers because of his complete lacks of morals. Only in US idiots are trying to frame him as "alt-right" or something.
Because its a very suspicious story from any angle, and they are attempting to tie him to various groups adjacent to our own regardless.
Nobody gives a shit about him, only if any part of it is true and, mostly, who even is this guy everyone else is talking about.