Jordan Peterson is making it harder and harder to defend him.
Don't get me wrong, I think some of his self help stuff was pretty helpful for many people, so he probably is still a net positive...but it's getting harder and harder to stand his terrible takes and his pseudointellectual word salad nonsense.
"anonymous cowardly troll demons" and "sadistic Machiavellian psychopaths and narcissists"...I mean, really?
Jordan Peterson is an idiot, but an idiot who was in the right place at the right time, and who helped a lot of people by doing the very bare minimum and being a male role model...not even a perfect one, but one who at least existed.
So, yeah, I'm not on the JBP hate train like a lot of people but, damn, he's wrong on a lot of stuff. And the fact that he's helped a lot of people really says more about the state of our current society than it does about him.
Thankfully, he doesn't need to be defended, and I say that as someone who is more pro-JBP than most here.
Just take his good ideas and pass them along. Shit, take credit for them if you want. JBP certainly doesn't have a monopoly on observing the world. I hope he comes around again, but I've metaphorically met too many heroes in the last decade to waste any time hanging around to find out.
He's a canadian. Being a cuck is in his national identity. He has some intelligent things to say on social issues but no American should ever listen to a canuck cuck talk about fundamental liberties, because they do not understand them.
Agreed. He's still got a lot of good stuff about psychology and the bible, and he's got a lot of interesting interviews, but everything he says on twitter seems to be retarded.
I also really don't trust the Daily Wire; they seem like they're just capitalizing on the zeitgeist and would sell their audience out for a shekel.
I've always disliked his random clout outside of what he actually earned but I also see his point. I just heavily disagree with it. It it was some government sanctioned forum for official political discussion then sure have real names but that's not what Twitter is and it's international as well
I think some of his self help stuff was pretty helpful for many people, so he probably is still a net positive
Just remember this applies to almost all snake oil salesmen, evangelists, and fake tv "doctors" like Dr Phil. People just think those are bad because they didn't help them personally, and it looks cringe or exploitative because of that. The same way "clean your room/penis" looks to people who Peterson isn't helpful towards.
Placebo effect means basically any form of self help that isn't actively exploiting you will help, probably immensely.
One of the things he said was that people who do exceptional things in their life do so once. Almost nobody can do amazing things repeatedly. Most artists of merit will only have one magnum opus in them.
Peterson is the same. He did great with the meat of his life's work, but people expect too much of him now.
He's on record for admitting his main purpose was to "deradicalize White men" . He tells Whites to be individualists and that White nationalism is bad meanwhile he tells jews the opposite and he supports zionism. . He's a gatekeeper. Why would you want to defend him?
Nah. He's smart on some things, but he's always been sort of an idiot. At least in my opinion. And, again, this is coming from someone who likes and appreciates a lot of what Peterson has done. I'm not one of his haters, I'm not trying to put him down. I'm just calling it like I see it. He leans too hard on the "intellectual" identity, but isn't anywhere near as smart as he likes to think, and has always talked in circles and spit out annoying (if sometimes still useful) word salad.
Jordan Peterson is making it harder and harder to defend him.
Don't get me wrong, I think some of his self help stuff was pretty helpful for many people, so he probably is still a net positive...but it's getting harder and harder to stand his terrible takes and his pseudointellectual word salad nonsense.
"anonymous cowardly troll demons" and "sadistic Machiavellian psychopaths and narcissists"...I mean, really?
Jordan Peterson is an idiot, but an idiot who was in the right place at the right time, and who helped a lot of people by doing the very bare minimum and being a male role model...not even a perfect one, but one who at least existed.
So, yeah, I'm not on the JBP hate train like a lot of people but, damn, he's wrong on a lot of stuff. And the fact that he's helped a lot of people really says more about the state of our current society than it does about him.
Thankfully, he doesn't need to be defended, and I say that as someone who is more pro-JBP than most here.
Just take his good ideas and pass them along. Shit, take credit for them if you want. JBP certainly doesn't have a monopoly on observing the world. I hope he comes around again, but I've metaphorically met too many heroes in the last decade to waste any time hanging around to find out.
He's a canadian. Being a cuck is in his national identity. He has some intelligent things to say on social issues but no American should ever listen to a canuck cuck talk about fundamental liberties, because they do not understand them.
Agreed. He's still got a lot of good stuff about psychology and the bible, and he's got a lot of interesting interviews, but everything he says on twitter seems to be retarded.
I also really don't trust the Daily Wire; they seem like they're just capitalizing on the zeitgeist and would sell their audience out for a shekel.
I've always disliked his random clout outside of what he actually earned but I also see his point. I just heavily disagree with it. It it was some government sanctioned forum for official political discussion then sure have real names but that's not what Twitter is and it's international as well
Just remember this applies to almost all snake oil salesmen, evangelists, and fake tv "doctors" like Dr Phil. People just think those are bad because they didn't help them personally, and it looks cringe or exploitative because of that. The same way "clean your room/penis" looks to people who Peterson isn't helpful towards.
Placebo effect means basically any form of self help that isn't actively exploiting you will help, probably immensely.
One of the things he said was that people who do exceptional things in their life do so once. Almost nobody can do amazing things repeatedly. Most artists of merit will only have one magnum opus in them.
Peterson is the same. He did great with the meat of his life's work, but people expect too much of him now.
He's on record for admitting his main purpose was to "deradicalize White men" . He tells Whites to be individualists and that White nationalism is bad meanwhile he tells jews the opposite and he supports zionism. . He's a gatekeeper. Why would you want to defend him?
Nah. He's smart on some things, but he's always been sort of an idiot. At least in my opinion. And, again, this is coming from someone who likes and appreciates a lot of what Peterson has done. I'm not one of his haters, I'm not trying to put him down. I'm just calling it like I see it. He leans too hard on the "intellectual" identity, but isn't anywhere near as smart as he likes to think, and has always talked in circles and spit out annoying (if sometimes still useful) word salad.