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Ron DeSantis won postgrads by 7 fucking points. He appeals across all groups (twitter.com)
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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I watched Rumsfeld a lot and never heard him pushing neocon politics, instead his job was more about overall military strategy. By contrast, his deputy, Wolfowitz, was the neocon ideologue. Though Rumsfeld may have been swayed or influenced by Wolfowitz.

He was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq. I think more than just doing his job.

It 100% did. Saddam was an enemy of Israel. The fall of Saddam has greatly benefited Israel directly, also led to the civil war in Syria, and the Sunni/Shiite rift growing which opened the door to the Abraham Accords and further recognition of Israel by the Sunni side as they see Israel as less of a threat than Iran.

Saddam was an enemy of Israel who was handcuffed and could do squat. It's a bit of a joke. Afterwards, Iraq became the ally of Iran, another nominal foe of Israel.

Regardless, to think that America would attack a country for Israel suggests that you do not understand politics. Countries don't do stuff out of altruism. You should know that.

I'm not sure why you would think so. Right wing / nationalist political leaders aren't necessarily against promoting globohomo as a weapon against their enemies. Also it doesn't matter about Sharon personally, the Neocons did what they thought was best for Israeli interests.

Why on earth would Dick Cheney care about Israeli interests, except insofar as it affects Dick Cheney's interests?

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

He was a strong supporter of the war in Iraq. I think more than just doing his job.

A lot of people supported the war without being Neocons, including me. The large majority of Republicans supported the war, and even most mainstream Democrats.

Saddam was an enemy of Israel who was handcuffed and could do squat. It's a bit of a joke.

Saddam was making progress in getting out from under sanctions, and he would have eventually broken free of them entirely. His goal was to make himself a strongman leader of the Arabs, which meant picking fights with Israel.

Afterwards, Iraq became the ally of Iran, another nominal foe of Israel.

Iraq is not an ally of Iran. It is a battleground where Iran and others try to manipulate and have influence. If it was iran's ally, we wouldn't still have US troops and bases there.

Regardless, to think that America would attack a country for Israel suggests that you do not understand politics. Countries don't do stuff out of altruism. You should know that.

Jews have a history of manipulating American politics to their own advantage. They don't control the US, but they are able to push it somewhat here and there.

Why on earth would Dick Cheney care about Israeli interests, except insofar as it affects Dick Cheney's interests?

He was duped by the Neocons and followed them for reasons other than advancing the interests of Israel. The Neocons made various arguments that were tailored to appeal to national security hawks like Cheney.

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