COVID-19: Vaccination status polarizes population
People who strongly identify with their COVID vaccine status discriminate more strongly against the respective other group. This is shown by a study conducted by the team led by Luca Henkel, member of the Cluster of Excellence ECONtribute at the University...
So the people they went out of their way to alienate, persecute and isolate from society feel alienated, persecuted and isolated from society.
Who funds research like this? Like for real. I know money is fake, but who just burns resources conducting a "study" for a question you could have answered by a ten year old? It would cost me a twenty dollar Fortnite fun bucks card to get this question conclusively answered at an elementary school.
You see, I have a friend. And my friend needs money. But I am a simple government worker giving out money for research. But my friend he does the best research.
However actual research requires effort and time so why not make some bullshit research to get some of that funding money. Either to give to a friend or to give to an actual research lab cause X2 funding.
Either way it's bureaucratic bullshit at its finest that gets stupid research like this funded
Generally there are grant funds with X amount of money to burn each year, and they just hand it out for people who say things they like. Because like most businesses, if they don't use it they get less money next year.
Its all a giant corporate pyramid.
This isn't as bad as you think, it's a nature paper. Hell, but for a few comments in the discussion, I was about to call it good.
It's not just what the title of this summary article says, go read the full thing and see what it says, its actually looking far more at 'how much you identify with either being vaccinated or unvaccinated, what factors influence this, and then what that means for behaviour'. It's not just whether these people are vaccinated or not, they first measure how much they agree with being proud of it, we're looking for people forming an identify around it. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01469-6
For example, it gives us a nice look at who the 'proud' vaccinated are:
Ok of course, people who listen to the mainstream news are more likely to identify with being
poisonedvaxxed up, but this tells us how much, and there is a surprise or two there, with the self-described centrists identifying more with it than the left, its also more of a boomer karen thing than a gen z or millenial thing, being associated with age. Good info to know too, and not necessarily intuitive. Remember this isn't measuring who is and isn't vaxxed, its who is out there forming an identity around being vaxxed (and then acting on it, as we'll see later)The fact that those who identify strongly with being unvaxxed about it feel more isolated isn't the finding from this, its one of the expected and less interesting ones, except that we can now begin to look at exactly how much of that sentiment there is.*
They also took 3 snapshots of people at different times, and so we can look at what happened to change their minds.
Read further down, they even played a little game to determine if the perceptions of being persecuted by the vaxxed were perhaps justified:
The vaxxed were given money and asked to share, they did not do so with the unvaxxinated, far more than the unvaxxinated did, their ingroup preference is stronger and more severe the stronger they identify with 'being vaxxed'
This is not trash, it has quite a few interesting little nuggets. Ok yes, we all know it's true, but some social scientist has actually gone and tried to prove it (as well as you can in that sort of test) and put some actual numbers on it.
They at the end have an absolutely trash proposal and position on how gov's should respond, absolutely. In their discussion and conclusion (but then, they all seem to be obligated to). To call this entire thing trash is short sighted however. There is some quite useful information in here, the data is on our side and this shows it.
Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
I take issue with their "analysis" of discrimination, even if they seem to reach the appropriate conclusion.
They frame here "discrimination" against the unvaxxed as a behavioural and psychological construct of individual persons and tested their hypothesis whether the unjabbed's grievances were fake news.
While there certainly was some bigotry at the individual level from family/friends/co-workers/etc, framing and testing "discrimination" against the unjabbed as a phenomenon between two individuals ignores the greater objective reality of true systemic discrimination where the State capriciously robbed individuals of their rights to work, to cross borders, to travel, to conduct commerce, to enter premises, to experience entertainment, etc.
Oh it is undoubtedly quite artificial and individual how they looked at it, 100%. However, I don't see a good way that they can test for it otherwise. But then I also don't see that the state level systemic stuff needs much testing when you can just examine policy. You want to examine its effects sure, but it's certain that it exists. This is new then, whereas the evidence for the state level stuff just needs cataloguing. So this is my view in many ways even more useful because now we can show evidence for all levels of discrimination, at the system state level and personal. Any state policies or advertisements that help promote it as an identity can in fact now even be tied to causing personal level grief also.
They were wrong to ignore the state discrimination (and to propose more of it even in the discussion), but we've at least got some interesting data here.
I think it's the condescending and smarmy way that they presented this part of their experiment.
They framed it where if their stupid construct didn't detect measurable interpersonal bias, that all the bitching about gross rights violations was misinformation.
Yeah you've got a good point here and it shows how bias can find its way in. You're right, not finding measurable interpersonal bias wouldn't prove the null, it would simply fail to prove the alternative in that experiment, they should know better and phrase it that way. That they didn't is revealing
I agree with your concerns there too, the authors are far from perfect in that regard, but still maintain that this is rather useful and interesting data. They had to begrudgingly admit we are right on this. The fact that even through their bias and awful recommendations this shows we are right is itself interesting.
I don't.
If anything I think it's the reverse.. the vaccinated have to virtue signal that they're vaxx'd and bristle at the fact that they might've been not only hoodwinked - but injected themselves with cancer.
It is just correlation, but I bet there will be some causation as well. You are far more likely to go along with the herd if you don't feel socially excluded.
Please, find the social media profiles and email of the person who did this study and POLITELY show their blindness and how cruel and nefarious they are by further ostracizing people who were persecuted by the state and ASK THEM TO APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY for furthering lies to the general population.
Let's start this movement of polite, correct and incisive accountability request to the liars and whores of the state.
Jokes on them: I was already socially excluded, alienated and isolated. Covid just brought that home.
I didn’t really need a “pandemic” to see just how shittily people would treat one another, when given the chance and the motive. I had already seen it, like, forever…
Sure, it revealed an even darker side of some people, which I suppose I wasn’t fully aware of, but really, there were very few people who were “duped” or who turned on me that I was overly surprised by…
Only thing that surprised me was during the months of forced isolation when not one “friend” made contact. That, I admit, was somewhat of a “surprise”.
All of which is to say, people fucking suck. If you can find one person who doesn’t suck, or at least sucks less, and build a life with them? Fantastic. But in general, fuck people. I don’t think we needed this paper to tell us just how badly “the majority” treated the rest of us, these last couple of years…