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Hell has frozen over: The Guardian publishes an article suggesting that the UK return to an absolute monarchy (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Darkchaos 3 years ago by Darkchaos +35 / -0
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– Darkchaos [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

While that's true, why not find a new king then? Someone who will actually be a wise benevolent ruler? These people exist and they can help save their own countries if placed in the right positions.

If we can't even do that, then the WEF might as well have won and there's nothing we can do about it except pray that papa Putin will launch the nukes and destroy the current world order.

Also, I'd disagree that absolute powers corrupts absolutely. I would instead argue that power doesn't corrupt, instead it reveals. It reveals what kind of person someone really is.

Society has both plenty of wannabe tyrants who lack the power to act on their dark impulses, and good people who could lead us to a better future but they lack the power as well. Give someone power, and you'll find out which group they're in.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

How are you going to appoint a new king instead of Charles in the U.K?

You seem to be wrapped up in the notion that single individuals can fix all of our problems. That is a very simplistic way of looking at a multi-faceted problem where all of our major institutions have become rotten.

There are very clear flaws to our current status quo in the west but replacing it with monarchy is not the easy answer you believe it to be.

How are you going to appoint the benevolent wise man as your king?

Through voting?

What happens when the easily manipulated general populace appoints someone like Brandon to be king?

Think of what can go wrong not just what can go right.

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– Darkchaos [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Under an absolutist monarchy, kings rely on a certain amount of popular support to stay in power. If they fall below that level of support, they will be overthrown. The people will revolt or they'll be assassinated.

Trying to reform the system or switch from democracy to another system through peaceful means is not going to work. Like you mentioned, the institutions are completely rotten and there's a more insidious problem that the West is dealing with.

It's the importation of aliens and foreigners that has been ongoing for quite some time now.

"It is also a habit of tyrants to prefer the company of aliens to that of citizens at table and in society; citizens, they feel, are enemies, but aliens will offer no opposition. " - Aristotle

So it is, and reform becomes ever more unlikely as demographics change, for demographics are destiny. The foreigners and illegal aliens will receive handouts from the corrupt government and in turn, they will give their loyalty. For a time, until they achieve majority and most likely attempt to seize power themselves.

At this point, the only solution that could work in the West is for a revolution or coup to happen and a new regime headed by a strong leader to restore their country to its former greatness and purge the WEF-backed anti-human elements. Whether this is a monarchy or a dictatorship is immaterial, so long as someone is doing what needs to be done.

I'll admit, it's possible that the populace might actually make things worse and the wrong man could get in charge, but doing nothing will only result in the slow destruction of Western countries.

Thankfully, people do seem to be waking up on a large scale. Countries that haven't been completely subverted yet seem to be trying to resist. The Right has had victories in Italy and Sweden, two highly woke countries.

But the same approach is not going to work in countries like the UK or US, which are two party states where your choices are between a corrupt ineffectual party and one that is actively trying to accelerate your destruction.

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– APDSmith 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Under an absolutist monarchy, kings rely on a certain amount of popular support to stay in power.

No, no they don't. They rely on the armed forces and they rely on the nobility, whom they keep on side with various favours and grants.

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– Darkchaos [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It depends. Peasant revolts have happened in the past, the nobility isn't a factor under an absolutist, bureaucratic monarchy and what the military does depends on if they're being used as a favored class to maintain power or not.

Although this was then, things would likely work very differently now. Unless you're North Korea or China, any monarchist industrialized nation is going to develop serious unrest if the ruling monarch becomes tyrannical or sells out their own country. The digital age has made it very difficult to cover up the misdeeds of a head of state.

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– deleted 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0
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– BetterNameUnfound 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Got any more cool monarchist quotes?

I'm serious--I need them for a little project of mine, and I don't trust any search engine to give me good stuff here.

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– Darkchaos [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sadly I can't really think of much off the top of my head. You're welcome to have a debate and maybe I'll remember something or come up with something quote-worthy though?

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